[Joel_Stewart]

This morning I was watching the golf channel and they had Nicklaus-Player at Wentworth from Shells wonderful world of golf.

After the 1st hole, Jack Whitaker does one of his standard history stories and talks about how inland courses in the UK were plain and not very interesting until HS Colt began his career by clearing the underbrush around London.  He went on to build Swinley Forest and then Royal Portrush.   He then gave Colt quite a bit of the credit for Pine Valley.

Regardless, it was a good piece.  I know Colt was on some list as one of the top 25 architects of all time but maybe he doesn't get the credit that he deserves.

[Andrew Summerell]

Joel,

I’ve always found it hard to believe that Colt is not considered one of the best 2 or 3 architects ever. Maybe he wasn’t into self promotion as much as some of the other guys.

Strangely enough, Wentworth is probably one of his lesser courses, architecturally speaking.

[Adam Clayman]

Joel, Did you see the question asked to JN about what was new in the design world?

[Joel_Stewart]

Joel, Did you see the question asked to JN about what was new in the design world?

No, please share.

[Adam Clayman]

I heard the answer and then checked to see when it was taped. The answer was...in 2000,,, "There's nothing new in design".

Jack went on to add, what seemed like canned Tartan speak about borrowing concepts, implementing strategies and using the land.  

[TEPaul]

"I’ve always found it hard to believe that Colt is not considered one of the best 2 or 3 architects ever."

He is in my book, or at least in the top five or so.

However, the one I'm most fascinated by at the moment is another of the early heathland architects, Herbert Fowler, particularly after what was just rediscovered in an old Philly newspaper about how Crump and the Boys felt about him.

If I had just one course I could see right now it would be Eastward Ho!

[TEPaul]

My main interest in architecture, I guess, has been the Golden Age American courses, but if I can get over there at some point I sure would like to see and find out everything I can about those early turn of the century and beginning 20th century heathland courses and their architects.

I think they were the virtual lynchpin to the development of the first really good INLAND architecture in this world, including in America and the East!

[Sean_A]

"I’ve always found it hard to believe that Colt is not considered one of the best 2 or 3 architects ever."

He is in my book, or at least in the top five or so.

However, the one I'm most fascinated by at the moment is another of the early heathland architects, Herbert Fowler, particularly after what was just rediscovered in an old Philly newspaper about how Crump and the Boys felt about him.

If I had just one course I could see right now it would be Eastward Ho!

There is no question Colt is one of the top archies ever, maybe the top of the toppest (ha).

I think Darwin thought very highly of Fowler as well.  I too am most interested in Fowler mainly because I believe he was more apt to stick to his mantra of letting the land dictate the course than other archies of the time.  It would be wonderful to see what Fowler did at Eastward Ho!  

It just seems strange to think that there are courses still about which really were the crossovers from the UK.  I can recall seeing pix of Myopia and Garden City the first time and I would have sworn these were English courses.  

Ciao

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