[redanman]

............ if they were to take 2-10,000 of the prized Masters weekly badges sold to "Patrons" for $90 for a week (And later re-sold for thousands and thousands of dollars under the friendly  wink-wink look away system completely against the strict Masters Committee policies) and instead held lotteries for 8-40,000 one-day tickets that would be issued as bronze name-engraved non-transferable ultimate souvenirs that the regular golfer would prize?  After all, there isn't even a waiting list any longer for the Patron Badges. How likely is the average golfer ever to see a real competition round at the Masters without a business perk or a second mortgage? I suppose that the practice round lotteries are a nice gesture ........

Ironic that the founding fathers left England for relief from the tyranny of the Crown and the USA is supposedly the world's great bastion and spreader of freedom (whether you want its brand of freedom or not).  

Yet - all but a very few of the UK's greatest golf courses can be played by visitors who posses a legitimate handicap card and are willing to play at certain times while in the USA, emulating the storied ANGC nearly all of the top private clubs in the USA are absolutely off-limits to anyone not knowing a member.  

I contend that too many Masters attendees are there receiving a business perk, rather than out of the love of the game, yet another way the Masters and ANGC is in the end not really good for the game.  After all, they have also given us dyed ponds, unrealistic green conditions (making lives for our supers very frustrating) and are continually going against the original design intent of Bob Jones and Dr. Mackenzie.

...... cue that awful music now .....

[John Kavanaugh]

Yea...Maybe we can get more guys yelling "You da man!!!" or "Get in the hole!!!"..I think this is a terrible idea until the American golfer proves he deserves to attend this private event.

[redanman]

John

I thought you more of a socialist than that. (BBGE, of course)

Do you think that Joe six-pack wouldn't live up to the Masters Committee standards?  Are you saying that the average American is a boor?

[John Kavanaugh]

John

I thought you more of a socialist than that.

Do you think that Joe six-pack wouldn't live up to the Masters Committee standards?  Are you saying that the average American is a boor?

I really don't know what the hell happened to the American public but at $90 for the week I'm afraid the tournament would change greatly and make it almost impossible for a lover of golf to enjoy.  Jack it to $90 per day and it might improve.  It might also help if everyone had assigned seats because I can only imagine the rudeness that would be displayed in an attempt to get the best view.  

Strangely though and it may be because of assigned seats I did attend both the Big Ten basketball championships and the Mid-West Regionals and found nothing but gentlemen at both events.  I could be wrong.

I guess was surprised at how a small private school like Butler could graduate so many poor sports.  I was put off at their attitude toward the refs during the loss to Florida.

[Adam Clayman]

I never knew how boorish until I heard that when a european is in the lead, at The Masters, it is amazing how many chair slams can be heard in that players backswing.

[Mike Hendren]

The obvious solution is to limit patrons to citizens of Georgia and contiguous states, excluding Florida (Sarge, you can use one of my extra tickets).

Mike

[Jim Nugent]

Private property...

[redanman]

Jim

Clearly they and any other club on private property can and do do what they wish. My point is that golf is particularly not well served by this practice.

JK me droogie
Ap-o-polly-loggies!
I did neglect to mention that the individual day passes of engraved bronze would of course not cost $12.85 ($90 / 7) but $90 each, considering $275? for the Super Bowl and $300 + for a seat on the centerline at the glass for a routing NHL game, $90 is not out of reach or line.  Autrefois, je m'excuser!

[Brent Hutto]

It would seem to me that the Masters is the golf event that more people prefer to watch on TV and tickets to which most people consider the most desirable. And it has arguably the least intrusion of corporate greasiness of any event these players regularly compete in. Heck, there are even players who say it's the most pleasant event on the calendar for them each year.

If looking to upgrade the game, might I suggest that other weeks of the year may offer more room for improvement?

[Patrick_Mucci_Jr]

Redanman,

Yes, let's abandon all the dedicated fans who've attended the Masters for the last 10-10-40 years and give someone else a chance.

Let's turn the Masters into the Southern version of the Phoenix Open.

Let's take the most successful, most respected tournament presentation in all of golf, turn our backs on the loyal fans and hold a lottery, so that someone can resell their winning ticket for a lot of money.

Great idea, have you considered sending your suggestion to Billy Payne ?

 

[Doug Siebert]

If I was in charge, I'd have names of attendees on the badges, and check IDs at the gate to make sure it matched.  That would eliminate those people who hold badges just to resell them each year for a big profit or give them away as a corporate perk (many of which are probably also resold)

If you wanted to transfer your badge to someone else you'd ask them to issue you a replacement badge for a fee under that name.  If the same guy does that several years in a row, they drop him from the list.

I wonder how many deceased people still have badges their children now use?  If you had a badge and died, and your son mails them a change of address form in your name and keeps paying to renew the badge each year, is there any way they'd find out?  Masters badgeholders may have become hereditary at this point, similar to the Kentucky Derby.

Of course, they've got no reason to listen to me, and I guess they like the way they are doing things if they haven't changed them.

[Mark Pearce]

Redanman,

Yes, let's abandon all the dedicated fans who've attended the Masters for the last 10-10-40 years and give someone else a chance.

Let's turn the Masters into the Southern version of the Phoenix Open.

Let's take the most successful, most respected tournament presentation in all of golf Really, you think?, turn our backs on the loyal fans and hold a lottery, so that someone can resell their winning ticket for a lot of money.

Great idea, have you considered sending your suggestion to Billy Payne ?

 

[redanman]

Mr Mucci

You under estimate golf fans, just as your perverted view of public golfers.  Many a golfer would treasure such a bronze engraved one-day pass (that they couldn't sell).  

You grossly over-estimate the Masters.

The R & A's Open is far and away the best tournament in golf.

Put yourself outside your privileged circle for a moment.  Whoops, I forgot!

C'est impossible!!!  

Now go back to eat your pimento cheese sandwich wrapped in green cellophane.

[Paul Stephenson]

Redanman,

Yes, let's abandon all the dedicated fans who've attended the Masters for the last 10-10-40 years and give someone else a chance.

Let's turn the Masters into the Southern version of the Phoenix Open.

Let's take the most successful, most respected tournament presentation in all of golf, turn our backs on the loyal fans and hold a lottery, so that someone can resell their winning ticket for a lot of money.

Great idea, have you considered sending your suggestion to Billy Payne ?

 

An awful lot of those dedicated fans are selling those $90 tickets for as much as $3800 a day on e-bay.  I wonder what percentage of the patrons are holding thier own badge???

[PThomas]

I agree Bill...in fact I posted the same thought awhile ago!

[redanman]

Paul

I'm sorry that I missed it, but as I posted elsewhere yesterday or 2-3 days ago, I do not read every single post.

p.s.  I NEVER DID!

[Tim_Cronin]

Just as an FYI: Badges were $175 this year.
Augusta National supposedly checks obituary notices in newspapers (presumably Augusta, Atlanta, maybe a couple other southern cities) to see if "patrons" are no longer around to patronize. (Or to bury under greens!) That way a few folks on the waiting list get badges each year.

[Doug Siebert]

Are obituaries based on coroner's reports or does it work like holes in one where someone has to call it in?  If I lived in Augusta and my dad had a badge and he died, I'd make sure the paper didn't print his obit even if I had to agree to take the editor along with me to the toonamint each year
 
They might catch on by the time he got to be 105 years old, but by then I'd be over 70 and probably wouldn't want to spend all day walking up and down those hills anyway...

[Patrick_Mucci_Jr]

Mr Mucci

You under estimate golf fans,

HOW SO ?

just as your perverted view of public golfers.  

WHAT is my view of public golfers ?

Many a golfer would treasure such a bronze engraved one-day pass (that they couldn't sell).  

WHY couldn't they sell it ?

You grossly over-estimate the Masters.

I don't think so.
It's one of the GREAT events in golf.

The R & A's Open is far and away the best tournament in golf.

That's your opinion.
And, as much as I love the British Open, I love The Masters more.  You forget how many British Opens suffered through insufferable weather.  Let's call it a memory lapse of convenience.

Put yourself outside your privileged circle for a moment.  Whoops, I forgot !

I've NEVER been to a Masters.

I value loyalty, not instant gratification for Johnny come latelies, or for those who think that they have a right of entitlement to attend The Masters for no other reason than to selfishly impose their self interests above the interests of others.

Now go back to eat your pimento cheese sandwich wrapped in green cellophane.

As I stated, I've never been to The Masters, but, I know a freeloader when they put their agenda front and center.

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