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ed_getka

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Southern Oregon Golf?
« on: March 13, 2007, 04:08:34 PM »
I read a short article about some courses around the Medford area. Who has played at Stoneridge GC, Eagle Point GC, or Centennial GC? I am most curious about Centennial. Any thoughts on these courses?
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Stan Dodd

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Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2007, 04:30:28 PM »
Ed,
I have played both Stonridge and Eagle Point a number of times.  They both have some plusses.
Stoneridge is a fun course that makes some interesting use of some elevation changes.  I think it was designed by the owner of the property.  The greens have some interest and it is inexpensive.
Eagle Point is very well maintained with some intersting shots.  It moves through houses.  The greens have some good movement.  It is a more "professional design" and is a good course.
I play them both a couple of times a year.  I like Stoneridge for its price and lack of pretension.

peter_p

Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2007, 04:40:19 PM »
Ed,
IMO Eagle Point is the best of the three. Has good design and terrain, some strategic/heroic shots possible on par 5s. #10 is a questionable hole to some and one long cart path traverse after #15 to get from bottomland section to hilltop.

Stoneridge I played once, more than 15 years ago when it was (too?) new. Maintenance and related cash flow issues at that time. Hilliest of the three.

Centennial I played from one tee too far back on the way back from the Last King's Putter. Still managed to play the 3s and 5s even, bogey golf on the 4s. Large greens but didn't see many dangerous hole locations or high percentage chances for 3 putts. Good use of contour, some fall away greens.

The entire thread about Centennial I started last June:
I had the chance to play this course during the drive back from KPV. http://www.centennialgolfclub.com/view.asp?id=335&page=8480. It is located a few miles south of Medford OR, using the Phoenix exit.
  The card shows 7309 with 75.0/130, 6900 72.8/124, 6401
70.3/123, lowish slope rating considering the length, and while a medium length hitter I still opted to play at 6900 yards, and I didn't feel overwhelmed.
  Gently sloping terrain for the most part, with most holes in a 80-100 yard wide corridor between waist - high native grasses. The grass doesn't seem to be a factor off the tees (in light wind) but does intrude to peskiness near the greens.
Locating and playing the ball wasn't as bad as imagined. The parallel holes are separated by the grass and OB doesn't come into play. A really open site, wind will be a factor. The clubhouse (unbuilt) area is at mid elevation.
  Greens are T1 bent, fairly large, and gentle contours and could get exciting at 11+. No split levels, and two on the back are cambered front to back (15,17). Moderately bunkered, and they are shallow with the white sand he normally uses. No runoffs to tight putting areas. No shots over water, but I did see some shots find the three lakes near greens.
  I didn't see any great risk-reward situation. Two par 5s are reachable in two. #3 is a stout uphill dogleg (452/429) to a hilltop green, followed by a drop shot 3 to a green much like #5 at Ghost Creek, most will test long irons. The next two par 3s (6,14) off similar length shots, but box the compass.
  The longish par 4s (3/452, 7/474, 8/452, 12/453, 15/458 and 18/494) provide the meat of the course, while the two short 4s suprisingly lack challenge.
  Given one day in Medford, Eagle Point still has the edge, but that is a no longer hidden gem.

 Other interesting southern Oregon courses might include Myrtle Creek about 80 miles north on I-5, Running Y in Klamath Falls and Salmon Run on the coastin Brookings. The Nicklaus group is building the Paradise Ranch 7400 yd course near Merlin, but it isn't scheduled to open until summer of 2008. The only worthwhile private course is Rogue Valley, on a Egan chassis, with a newer nine hole loop (4-12 of the main course).
« Last Edit: March 13, 2007, 07:37:00 PM by Peter Pittock »

Garland Bayley

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Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2007, 05:13:02 PM »
Ed,
IMO Eagle Point is the best of the three. Has good design and terrain, some strategic/heroic shots possible on par 5s. #10 is a questionable hole to some and one long cart path traverse.
...

Nice cart path. There is a fork in it at a point where the course is out of sight with no sign to say which way to go. Luckily this walker looked long and hard at the wrong fork and logically concluded the correct fork would be the one leading up the hill to gain access to a tee.

When I paid my green fees, I had the displeasure to find out they charge and extra $20 to nonlocals. When I asked why, they said, because the course was in immaculate condition. Needless to say, their immaculate condition is my extremely overwatered condition. I could feel the heels of my shoes sinking into the ground on practically every fairway I walked. But then I weigh a bit more than the average walker. The only fairway that was firm was the 16th that I had to climb the long cartpath to. The 10th green had huge fans running to get it to dry and promote air movement to help keep the turf in reasonable condition I suppose.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Mike Erdmann

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Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2007, 05:19:18 PM »
While Centennial is a nice addition to an area of Oregon that doesn't have a ton of great golf options, it doesn't measure up to Eagle Point.  My least favorite of the nine Fought courses I've played.  

Haven't played Stoneridge so can't offer any thoughts there.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2007, 05:31:29 PM by Mike_Erdmann »

Doug Ralston

Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2007, 05:38:48 PM »
I have not been to Oregon to play golf, but a friend spoke quite highly of 'Running Y' at Klamath Falls; a Palmer design, I think he said.

Doug

Kalen Braley

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Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2007, 05:48:49 PM »
While this thread has started to go off topic.  I personally don't know why anyone would venture to Southern Oregon and it not be the Bandon Resort.  Sure maybe some might not consider it such, but looking at a map, Bandon is clearly in the southern portion of the state.

In the meantime, I think Ed would appreciate the medford area.

Garland Bayley

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Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2007, 05:50:42 PM »
Kalen,

I believe it is called travelling through on I-5! Bandon, unfortunately is not that easy to access if you are trying to make some forward progress using interstates.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Kalen Braley

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Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2007, 06:06:34 PM »
I would agree Garland that its nice that its right on I-5.  But even that stretch of I-5 is pretty darn remote.  The closest big city is Portland to the north and Sacramento to the south.

That being said, even if you were strapped for time, would the courses in medford be worth a look over any decent/nice course in your local area?

Bandon on the other hand....

Doug Ralston

Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2007, 06:23:53 PM »
Kalen;

Money might also be an issue. Just a thought.

Doug

Kalen Braley

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Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2007, 06:25:15 PM »
Kalen;

Money might also be an issue. Just a thought.

Doug

Well thats no problem, just be sure to be driving about during the winter time when rates are low.   ;D

ed_getka

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Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2007, 02:46:27 AM »
Kalen,
  I didn't bring up Bandon, because that is a whole different league that goes without saying. I was thinking more in terms of having a place to stop on the way up to check out Pronghorn sometime.
   
Thanks for the feedback guys.
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Mike Erdmann

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Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2007, 11:34:43 AM »
Ed,

If you're looking for a spot to play on the way up to Pronghorn, I'd play the Running Y outside of Klamath Falls and then take 97 up to Bend.  Crater Lake National Park is a short detour along the way and very much worth the trip.

Garland Bayley

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Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2007, 12:17:29 PM »
Yes Ed,

US 97 is the quickest way to Pronghorn from your place. That takes you by Running Y which I have heard good things about.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

peter_p

Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2007, 01:39:15 PM »
Ed,
You can do both Eagle Point and Running Y, one each direction. Cut the monotony of the trip and use both US 97 and I-5. Visit Crater Lake on the leg to Eagle Point.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2007, 01:42:54 PM by Peter Pittock »

Kalen Braley

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Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2007, 01:52:11 PM »
Ed,

I can 2nd a visit to Crater Lake.  Its well worth the diversion from hwy 97.

ed_getka

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Re:Southern Oregon Golf?
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2007, 01:12:30 AM »
Thanks guys. I have been to Crater Lake many times, the most amazingly blue water I have ever seen. I even jumped in the water down at the boat launch this summer. COLD! :o
   The courses and route are duly noted. This won't be anytime soon. Thanks again.
"Perimeter-weighted fairways", The best euphemism for containment mounding I've ever heard.

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