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Padraig Dooley

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Sloping Terrain
« on: June 19, 2019, 07:02:45 PM »
On sloping terrain are holes better up the slope or down the slope?

Is it necessary to be very creative to gently get the player to the top of the slope to play down the more severe slopes?
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Sloping Terrain
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2019, 06:59:33 AM »
Padraig,
Have a look at this Kington thread. Hilltop but with minimised uphill walking -[size=78%]http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,30926.0.html[/size]
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Sloping Terrain
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2019, 06:47:53 PM »
One of the more severe sites I've seen is Red Sky Ranch in Vail Valley. The Norman course is routed for the most part parallel to the slope. It has very few uphill holes. It makes the course very playable and the shots are great fun. It could have been almost unplayable if he had routes the course uphill and downhill. He does have one downhill par three of 280 yards from the back tee. The course backs up there because everyone tees it up from the back tee. It's great fun.
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Mike_Trenham

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Re: Sloping Terrain
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2019, 10:04:21 PM »
On sloping terrain are holes better up the slope or down the slope?

Is it necessary to be very creative to gently get the player to the top of the slope to play down the more severe slopes?


Seems to me it is easy to get players down a slope but it takes artistry to walk the players back up the slopes.


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Mark Pearce

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Re: Sloping Terrain
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2019, 04:02:11 AM »
This was the problem facing Scott MacPherson at Close House.  A really strongly sloping site.  On the front 9, he went up the hill by laying holes across the slope, with one uphill par 5 at 7.  Then down steeply on 8.


On the back 9, the slope is dealt with in one uphill slog on 10, then slaloming down until 14.


Most people I know (and I agree) think 10 is the least good hole on the (really good) course.
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Re: Sloping Terrain
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2019, 01:13:29 PM »

In general, downhill holes are better than uphill I believe, with a ton of exceptions.

If a cart course (yes, I know most here have a visceral reaction against cart courses but there are many good ones), it helps a lot if the cart takes you up between holes, or even better if it is before #1 or between 9s, where a club employee can even shuttle walking players. One long uphill cart section does not disrupt playing flow and makes for better holes.




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