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Nigel_Walton

Golf in Italia
« on: September 23, 2003, 11:27:19 AM »
We have a small group going to Southern Italy next month. Golf is not presently on the agenda. Should it be? Can anyone enlighten as to any special courses?

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Golf in Italia
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2003, 11:32:59 AM »
Heya Nigel,

Do youse a care to takes a Italiano over there to be-ahh yours guide ands to shows yous the besta Itlay has to offer?  

Eyesa will helps you wid everythins yous going to need ifs yous justa takes me wids you!

Nigel_Walton

Re:Golf in Italia
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2003, 11:43:48 AM »
Well, Tommy

It sounds as though you might speak the native language. Would love to have you along.

RJ_Daley

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Re:Golf in Italia
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2003, 11:53:16 AM »
Nigel, as is my habit while motoring through any countryside, I spent a month last year touring primarily around Campania, La Costiera, Amalfitana and Salerno, only to spot many golfy looking locations.  The land south of Salerno and on the Adriactic south of Pescara along both coasts and inland looks very conducive to sand barrens and heathland golf.  Unfortunately, I did not see any courses or hear of people speak of playing the game.  I think that Italian development regulations, land prices, and water restrictions are too much to overcome in most cases, and golf just hasn't flourished.

However, our friend Russell Talley has some information about work his design group has done or will do in Italia.  I have forgotten the details.  Perhaps he will see this and comment.  

I would love to be among a vanguard to introduce golf to the people of my family's home area mentioned above.  They are passionate about sports once they get into it.  They strike me as folks that would love the game if they had opportunities to play.  But, their attention has never been turned towards golf.

Sport eating and wine drinking ones way up and down the coast in between stops at antiquities and art museums is probably the better play in Italia.  
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Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Golf in Italia
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2003, 11:55:16 AM »
Nigel, I willsa prepares a fulls itineraries of allsa greats places to eats---beacuase letsa aface its, you aints goings to be lookings atsa artworks, yousa goings to eats correct?

We gotsa speghetts, ah pizza pie, ah eggsaplants. We evens a gotsa calmahdi, whicha yous Americanos callsa "Cala-mari."

Taksa me wid yous please Nigel, pleasea takes me wid youse!

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Golf in Italia
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2003, 11:57:09 AM »
No, Ah Ricardo Daley! yousa stays outta of disa one, I'msa one dats a goin' wid Nigel!

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re:Golf in Italia
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2003, 01:07:32 PM »
The Tuscany area which has seen alot of British settlement has a fair number of good to very good courses.

Nigel_Walton

Re:Golf in Italia
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2003, 02:39:31 PM »
Of recent vintage or older?

Mark_Rowlinson

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Re:Golf in Italia
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2003, 04:15:02 PM »
The only course south of Rome listed by the Peugeot Guide (which is no guide to greatness, let alone taste) is Riva Dei Tessali, on the gulf a few km west of Taranto.  Even they spend 60% of the brief text talking about religious processions and its ancient Greek heritage.  'The course is on the short side and has average-sized greens that are well defended.  Not the most spectacular layout in the world but at least playable by everyone.'  If they can find that much to say about it, why the devil is it in the book in the first place, taking valuable space away from courses which should be in there, such as Painswick.........

Scratch_Nathan

Re:Golf in Italia
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2003, 05:42:57 PM »
While on my Honeymoon in Italy - '98, I did squeek in one round of golf with some pretty rustic rental clubs.  Golf Ugolino  (it doesn't mean "ugly golf" in italian).  It's a charming course with beautiful vistas that has hosted the Italian Open.  It's on the drive between Florence and Rome in Chiantigiana.  

I played as a single...even though my marital status had just changed ;D  My wife came along for the ride and if I remember correctly, she read a book in the cart.  It's not quite Nicklaus' honeymoon round at Pine Valley, but at least we spent the day together.

Roosters crowing in the farms/vineyards during the round were quite memorable.  There were also some standout golf holes and the best golf facility turkey sandwich I've ever had in my life.  Even the mayo was out of this world.  

Still have a scorecard at home if you need help with more info.  I don't know who designed the course, though I always was curious.


Mark_Rowlinson

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Re:Golf in Italia
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2003, 05:59:44 PM »
Hang on! Ugolino is inTuscany - not exactly the north, but far from the south.  There's no point in driving all day on an autostrada just to play a golf course, however pretty.

David_Tepper

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Re:Golf in Italia
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2003, 10:17:14 PM »
Nigel-

I love playing golf. I love visiting Italy. I am not sure combining both would be the most productive or satisfactory use of your time. There are so many better things to do in Italy than play golf!

That being said, you should tell us where in Italy you will be traveling. This is a fair amount of golf in Northern Italy (Tuscany and points north) and around Rome, but if you are traveling well south of Rome I would not worry about missing any memorable golf at all. Enjoy "la dolce vita!"

DT  

Bill_McBride

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Re:Golf in Italia
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2003, 10:23:28 PM »
Having spent four of the past 54 weeks vacationing delightfully in Italy, I have to concur with Dick and David --- golf is great in most settings, in Italy one has too many other wonderful things to do!  It was actually very relaxing not spending too much time on GCA!  ;)  Our typical routine of breakfast/touristy wandering around/long lunch with wine/reposo (Italian siesta)/dinner/wander around some more was not compatible with a round of golf in the slightest.  But who cared?  Ciao!

Nigel_Walton

Re:Golf in Italia
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2003, 09:35:41 AM »
Thank you all for your responses and advice!

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