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Rich Goodale

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Re: The St. Andrews connection in Chicago
« Reply #50 on: June 04, 2012, 04:59:56 AM »
Thanks Rich.  Any ideas on who created the current course? 

No, Dave, but from what I hear from the locals, who cares?

And Tom MacW, vis a vis Doronch and Chicago, the main influence was Bob Macdonald, who travelled across the pond in 1910.  He was at Winnetka and Bob O' Link, but was best known as a player (3rd in 1915 Baltusrol US Open) and teacher (Sarazen, H Smith, Babe Zaharias).  He also brought over his two yonger brothers Bill (1912) and Jack (1919).  With the bros he bult an early driving range and reportedly helped cure CBM's outside/in weak fade.  The RDGC website claims that another emigre ( Bob Grant) was "said to be instrumental in the early growth of golf in Chicago," but after a few minutes on Google I think they are misinformed.  That being said, there were (and are) so many prominent Grant golfers in Dornoch that perhaps this was just another Bob.
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Tom MacWood

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Re: The St. Andrews connection in Chicago
« Reply #51 on: June 04, 2012, 06:40:41 AM »
RG
I knew about Bob Macdonald, he was a big time player and one of Sutherland's proteges, but he first worked at Euclid and Buffalo before going to Chicago in 1916. And I believe William worked in Wisconsin; I don't know anything about the others. With the Ross and Macdonald brothers there was definitely a Dornoch pipeline, I'm just not sure it terminated in Chicago.

DMoriarty

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Re: The St. Andrews connection in Chicago
« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2012, 12:24:06 PM »
Thanks Rich.  Any ideas on who created the current course? 

No, Dave, but from what I hear from the locals, who cares?

And Tom MacW, vis a vis Doronch and Chicago, the main influence was Bob Macdonald, who travelled across the pond in 1910.  He was at Winnetka and Bob O' Link, but was best known as a player (3rd in 1915 Baltusrol US Open) and teacher (Sarazen, H Smith, Babe Zaharias).  He also brought over his two yonger brothers Bill (1912) and Jack (1919).  With the bros he bult an early driving range and reportedly helped cure CBM's outside/in weak fade.  The RDGC website claims that another emigre ( Bob Grant) was "said to be instrumental in the early growth of golf in Chicago," but after a few minutes on Google I think they are misinformed.  That being said, there were (and are) so many prominent Grant golfers in Dornoch that perhaps this was just another Bob.
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