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Bill Shamleffer

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Hopefully some of our friends in the UK will have some reports from The Amateur Championship (under way as of today).

Hillside and Hesketh are a golf courses I know nothing about.  I will need to dig into my library to see what I can find out about these courses.  Until then I am sure that some on this site must have played these courses and may have a few thoughts and comments to share.
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Michael Wharton-Palmer

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Two good links tests, I .ike Hillside alot, but many believe it is overated..some  Sean....:}...vastly so
It will create a good champion.

Mark_Rowlinson

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Bill,

Hillside is just over the fence from (and can be said to look down on) Royal Birkdale and separated from Southport and Ainsdale by a railway line. It doesn't get much love on GCA, largely because the vast sand dunes through which most of the back nine runs don't seem to take maximum design advantage from them. This is a conservation area and there may have been limits on what Fred Hawtree was allowed to do in the way of moving earth. This part of the course dates from 1967 when other land was sold for housing development.The club began life on another site on the inland side of the railway, following on from the Grosvenor and Blundell clubs (both now defunct). It moved to its current site in 1923/4.

Hesketh is an interesting club, starting life in 1885 as the Southport Golf Club on land owned by the Hesketh family. The founding members were very well to do and well connected. The first course was in the Marshside Hills to the north of the houses of the wealthy in Hesketh Park. It was a 12-hole course laid out by the second son of Old Tom Morris, Jof. Soon it was extended to 18 holes. But there was an area of poor housing inhabited by drunks and ruffians called Little Ireland immediately south of the course, which was also prone to winter flooding. So the club moved in 1891/2 to a new site on Moss Lane. This was agricultural land, not links, and the course of about 5,400 yards was laid out by George Strath. The club then moved back to the Hesketh Links in about 1901/2 when Little Ireland was demolished. What became of its inhabitants is not recorded. George Lowe laid out the new links which incorporated some of the land previously occupied by Little Ireland. A fine clubhouse was erected. But the club did not own its course. The landlord did not maintain it well and flooding was frequent. The club was not prepared to spend its own money to upgrade the proprietor's course. Members left, many for Birkdale. In 1920 the club was offered a new lease which offered the club the chance to run the entire operation itself. A new limited company was incorporated. In 1936 Southport Corporation bought the course, offering the club a 99-year lease, but the club would have to release part of the course to the north of the clubhouse in exchange low-lying reclaimed estuary land. The drainage, construction of a sea wall, digging of ditches etc involved considerable outlay and Debenture Bonds were issued to raise capital. Finally, in 1974 the club negotiated a 999-year lease from the County Borough of Southport, which was almost immediately absorbed into the Metropolitan Borough of Sefton. Today's course is largely that completed in 1938, although many alterations have been made, not least the digging of several large lakes which provided earth for the building up of some of the lowest-lying fairways, greens and tees. The Moss Lane site was eventually taken over by the YMCA and subsequently became the home of Southport Old Links GC as a 9-hole course.

Joel Zuckerman

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I played Hillside about 2 weeks ago..teed off at 5:30 PM, and finished in twilight at 9:15 PM.

We thoroughly enjoyed it, particularly as it got towards evening and the winds finally died down!  (it was blowing 20--50 mph pretty much the whole week.)

The back nine is stronger than the front--the 10th is a nice little uphil par-3, followed by a sweeping downhill dogleg par-5 with a mile-wide view from the tee.  My gang and I enjoyed it nearly as much as any of the ten GC's we visited, though Birkdale was definitely the single highlihgt of the trip.

David_Tepper

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I played both courses in 1985. I remember Hillside being far better than Hesketh, as Hesketh had a number of holes on flattish ground at the far end of the course. 

Mark_Rowlinson

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Dan Grossman

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I played Hillside about 8 years ago on a trip to England that included rounds at Alwoodly, Birkdale, Lytham, Formby and West Lancs.  Of those courses, it was probably my least favorite, but those courses are pretty tough competition.  As someone mentioned, it resides in the dunes adjacent to Birkdale and feels a bit like Birkdale.  The fairways are not as rumpled as some traditional links courses.  I have posted some pictures below of the course, although with the exception of #18, I can't remember the individual holes.  It is a big course and one that it certainly capable of testing the amateurs.















#18 tee


#18 from fairway
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Mark Chaplin

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Whilst most links courses are made by nature Hillside appears to have been made by a bulldozer, I'm with Sean most over rated course around (along with Hoylake).
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Pete_Pittock

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I played them both about 10 years ago. I'm away from my normal computer, but will post some Hesketh photos when I get back in town Friday. Hesketh produced a couple of brothers for the Walker Cup as I remember. Hillside is the better of the two courses but there are a couple of memorable holes (14,15) at Hesketh, which has a hard to find entrance.

Scott Warren

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Judging by those pictures, Hillside might well have been Pat Ruddy's inspiration for The European Club ;)

Adam Lawrence

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Re: Hillside Golf Club and Hesketh Golf Club - The Amateur Championship
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2011, 01:58:05 AM »
Niall Glen, who was formerly one of David Kidd's UK-based associates (and who is now working with Paul Kimber, David's erstwhile second in command) did some renovation work at Hesketh over the last two or three years. See http://www.glengolfdesign.com/blog/hesketh/
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Sean_A

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Re: Hillside Golf Club and Hesketh Golf Club - The Amateur Championship
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2011, 04:02:59 AM »
Bill

There are some excellent shots and holes at Hillside; 6, 7 10 & 18 come to mind.  I don't think the course hangs together well as the dune holes are of the same ilk, cut through dunes rather than routed around and over at least for a few holes.  This style looks terribly artificial, is unimaginative and plays one-dimensional.  Hillside is however a good course that will test the best ams and if the rough and wind are up, the test will be more than these boys can handle. 

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Michael Goldstein

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Re: Hillside Golf Club and Hesketh Golf Club - The Amateur Championship
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2011, 04:57:25 AM »
Go the kiwi lad!! Inspired after a week at St Andy's visiting the Dunvegan with the locals...
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