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Mike Cirba

Phil in the Blanks - And the Answer Is...
« on: June 12, 2010, 11:20:08 AM »
The sentence starts, "Such well known golfers as...", and picks up "...were invited to...", etc.

Can anyone name any of the golfers I've blanked out?


« Last Edit: June 13, 2010, 09:28:22 AM by Mike_Cirba »

Mike Cirba

Re: Phil in the Blanks
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2010, 01:15:56 PM »
Hmmm....46 views and not a single guess.

Perhaps I should offer a prize of significant non-value?   

Bausch, you have to recuse yourself.

Mike Cirba

Re: Phil in the Blanks - Bet you can't guess!
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2010, 06:36:39 PM »
Ok

That's it...

Somebody better guess or the caddie gets it!

Mac Plumart

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Re: Phil in the Blanks - Bet you can't guess!
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2010, 07:02:19 PM »
I can't read the darn thing or I would guess.

To heck with being able to read it...Phil Mickelson is my guess!!!   :)
Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

Bill Brightly

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Re: Phil in the Blanks - Bet you can't guess!
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2010, 08:38:07 PM »
I'll guess Harry Vardon, James Foulis, Willie Dunn and CB Macdonald.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2010, 08:43:09 PM by Bill Brightly »

Mike Cirba

Re: Phil in the Blanks - Bet you can't guess!
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2010, 08:49:35 PM »
The caddie thanks you both, Mac and Bill.

He will be spared..for now.

Your answers, however, are wrong!


Bill Brightly

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Re: Phil in the Blanks - Bet you can't guess!
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2010, 09:34:46 PM »
Dont tell us it's Willie Campbell and Robert White..

Mike Cirba

Re: Phil in the Blanks - Bet you can't guess!
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2010, 09:56:43 PM »
Bill,

Afraid not, but a valiant effort. 

Neither is it the Master of the Hounds, I regret to say.

Bill Brightly

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Re: Phil in the Blanks - Bet you can't guess!
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2010, 10:21:13 PM »
Willie Anderson and Alex Findlay?

Mike Cirba

Re: Phil in the Blanks - Bet you can't guess!
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2010, 10:40:12 PM »
Bill, Bill, Bill...

Findlay is so 1915...

You're getting colder.
 

DMoriarty

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Re: Phil in the Blanks - Bet you can't guess!
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2010, 12:23:11 AM »
Could it be the usual cadre of Philadelphia area clubbies who you are endlessly trying to puff up as is they were on equal footing with another group of Founders who hung around Philadelphia a century and 1/2 earlier?  Is that close enough or do you want a list of names?

Should we really be surprised or impressed because a committee asked Philadelphia area clubbies what should be done regarding a public course?  In Philadelphia no less?   News would be if any of these early public courses sprouted from the Earth without any input from the locals who were interested in and involved with golf and courses.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2010, 12:25:41 AM by DMoriarty »
Golf history can be quite interesting if you just let your favorite legends go and allow the truth to take you where it will.
--Tom MacWood (1958-2012)

Mike Cirba

Re: Phil in the Blanks - Bet you can't guess!
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2010, 08:52:34 AM »
David,

The "usual cadre"?

No, that would be wrong as well, but thanks for playing and for the kind words.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2010, 09:01:33 AM by Mike_Cirba »

Mike Cirba

Re: Phil in the Blanks - Bet you can't guess!
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2010, 09:20:46 AM »
In 1900, fifteen years before the city of Philadelphia finally approved building a golf course within their park system at Cobb's Creek, the Golf Association of Philadelphia appointed a committee of local golfers who had prior experience with design and construction of golf courses to design and lay out a golf course in Fairmount Park, near the Belmont Mansion.





Even at that early date, it was recognized that men with experience in design and laying out their own local club courses would be in an excellent position to help with the public golf course.   And apparently they did design a course, one of nine holes and 3100 yards, which unfortunately was never built.





The idea of going to local experts to design golf courses in Philadelphia evidently had a history that was over a decade long when Cobb's Creek was finally built, and when Merion and Pine Valley were built.

It has been portrayed in some quarters that going with local knowledge was some type of myth, or weird anomaly that doesn't hold up to the test of logic, but even in the earliest days of golf in Philadelphia, it seems the idea of the "Philadelphia School" of collaborative design effort was well underway.  

Mr. Griscom, in fact, was to show up on another design committee years later.  ;)

Thanks for your interest.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2010, 09:44:19 AM by Mike_Cirba »

Doug Braunsdorf

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Re: Phil in the Blanks - Bet you can't guess!
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2010, 10:18:24 AM »
Could it be the usual cadre of Philadelphia area clubbies who you are endlessly trying to puff up as is they were on equal footing with another group of Founders who hung around Philadelphia a century and 1/2 earlier?  Is that close enough or do you want a list of names?

Should we really be surprised or impressed because a committee asked Philadelphia area clubbies what should be done regarding a public course?  In Philadelphia no less?   News would be if any of these early public courses sprouted from the Earth without any input from the locals who were interested in and involved with golf and courses.

Moriarty, piss off.
"Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction."

Doug Braunsdorf

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Re: Phil in the Blanks - And the Answer Is...
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2010, 10:25:27 AM »
Mike Cirba, 

  This is interesting stuff.  Thanks for posting it here.
"Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction."

DMoriarty

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Re: Phil in the Blanks - And the Answer Is...
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2010, 10:50:04 AM »
Can you all believe it?  The committee chosen to oversee the creation of a public course in Philadelphia consisted of golfers from . . . wait for it . . . Philadelphia!  A real shocker.  

And in case we couldn't figure out the point of this suspense filled quiz, just look at how the intimations, inferences, and allusions (delusions?) flow from there.    I've been away for months on end, yet I am still bored to tears with the state of this apparently never ending fluff job.  

Mike Cirba.  You have an all access pass to Joe Bausch's  fantastic stuff,  yet spewing these irrelevancies as if they were a photograph of the second shooter is the best that Phillys favorite sycophant can come up with?   Yawn.

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Doug Braunsdorf,

I agree that, generally, it is interesting stuff.  But when are we going to quit pretending it means much more than it could ever possibly mean? 
Golf history can be quite interesting if you just let your favorite legends go and allow the truth to take you where it will.
--Tom MacWood (1958-2012)

Mike Cirba

Re: Phil in the Blanks - And the Answer Is...
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2010, 11:13:39 AM »
David,

It is good to see you back here but you should think about removing that elephant you seem to be carrying on your shoulder.

I understand that you invested a lot of intellectual capital into the Macwoodian theory that seeks to diminish or even deny the architectural accomplishments of every early amateur architect (particularly the Philadelphia School) and that's all fine and we can discuss/debate that as new evidence surfaces, but let's drop the petty personal stuff that is what really bores and frustrates everyone to tears.

I'll leave you with some good advise Ran gave me when I came back to GCA after my own six month self imposed absence;  "Have fun with it!"

DMoriarty

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Re: Phil in the Blanks - And the Answer Is...
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2010, 11:50:02 AM »
Don't worry Mike, I am not around for long.  And I am having fun.   Every time I check in I find the same old joke.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2010, 04:39:42 PM by DMoriarty »
Golf history can be quite interesting if you just let your favorite legends go and allow the truth to take you where it will.
--Tom MacWood (1958-2012)

Mike Cirba

Re: Phil in the Blanks - And the Answer Is...
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2010, 10:30:41 PM »
Doug,

Glad you found it interesting.   I love the early interplay between these guys.

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Phil in the Blanks - And the Answer Is...
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2010, 10:34:19 PM »
I'm taking a wild guess here...

Was Hugh Wilson one of the golfers?
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Tom MacWood

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Re: Phil in the Blanks - And the Answer Is...
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2010, 11:19:04 PM »

I understand that you invested a lot of intellectual capital into the Macwoodian theory that seeks to diminish or even deny the architectural accomplishments of every early amateur architect (particularly the Philadelphia School) and that's all fine and we can discuss/debate that as new evidence surfaces, but let's drop the petty personal stuff that is what really bores and frustrates everyone to tears.


Mike
I don't discriminate...amateur, professional, American, Brit, Scot, Irish....I'm just trying to figure out who did what. Old Tom Morris, Colt, Ross, Flynn, Raynor, Tillinghast, Mackenzie, Wilson...I've probably pissed off a lot of fans, but the Philadelphians are definitely the most sensitive.

Mike Cirba

Re: Phil in the Blanks - And the Answer Is... New
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2010, 11:13:18 AM »
I'm taking a wild guess here...

Was Hugh Wilson one of the golfers?

Steve,

Nope.

I guess you didn't read far enough into the thread before guessing, because I provided the answer from the article which was written in 1900 in Reply #12.

And yes, it was a trick question.   ;D
« Last Edit: June 14, 2010, 11:26:58 AM by Mike_Cirba »

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