I can't think of a specific example, Mike, but could some of these be from old courses that were lengthened? Could some of those you describe be where a green used to exist, but the green was set back further, and the space in between, left for a FW approach? Maybe something like the old MacKenzie greenside B at 10, ANGC, where the green was set back, but the old green side bunker was so cool, they couldn't just fill it it.