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DMoriarty

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Re: Architects doing great work today that are seldom mentioned here
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2009, 09:10:49 PM »
Tom, I was going to mention Eric Iverson, but you beat me to it.  Both Stone Eagle and Rock Creek had to have been incredibly challenging projects and everyone involved deserves credit.   Along the same lines, I'd say Jim Urbina, although he seems to be mentioned more and more.   And surely some of Coore and Crenshaw's key people have been "doing great work" for quite some time now.

Jim Wagner is another whose name sometimes escapes mention.
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Architects doing great work today that are seldom mentioned here
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2009, 09:39:40 PM »
I think the operative phrase here revolves around "X's People."  When we say a Doak, a C&C, a Hurdzan-Fry, those are umbrella terms for the entire company, no?  The lead architects for our two Hurdzan-Fry courses in WNY (opened in the last five years) were neither Hurdzan nor Fry, but Bill Kerman (Harvest Hill) and David Whelchel (Diamond Hawk).  For those of us on the outside looking in, the begged question is how much input and influence the principals (D, C, C, H and F) have on the work of their associates.  Probably best left to a different thread.

By the way, if you want a Magical Mystery Tour, check out the Hurdzan Fry website.  It is without doubt a singular experience.
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Ryan Admussen

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Re: Architects doing great work today that are seldom mentioned here
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2009, 10:12:16 PM »
Bill Robinson has built a number of fun layouts in Oregon/SW Washington that I enjoy:

OGA
Tri-Mountain
Chehalem Glenn
Ocean Dunes

a more complete list: http://www.worldgolf.com/golf-architects/bill-robinson.html

I believe he designed Sirocco here in Calgary, one of my favorite courses in the area!
http://www.sirocco.ca/

Dan Herrmann

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Re: Architects doing great work today that are seldom mentioned here
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2009, 10:14:18 PM »
David,
Fortunately, Jim Wagner got a mention in Golf Mag's "Architect of the Year" story on Hanse.

Michael,
I agree on Jim Blaukovitch.  His work isn't world class but it fills a very important niche very well - mid priced daily fee courses.


Rob Rigg

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Re: Architects doing great work today that are seldom mentioned here
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2009, 10:23:25 PM »
Doug Carrick has built some very cool courses in Canada and one in Scotland, most of which I have not been fortunate enough to play - Ian Andrew worked with Doug for many years - I hope that Ian and Mike Weir get a chance to impress as courses start getting built again.

I have rarely seen Doug's name mentioned on the site - Cobble Beach, The Carrick on Loch Lomond, Muskoka Bay, Eagles Nest, Bigwin Island, Angus Glen, and Greywolf are a few of his courses. I know there are quite a number of Canadians here so I guess they don't think that Doug's work would inspire the treehouse. Maybe he is the Canadian Faz or something? Or is that Tom McBroom of Tobiano fame?

+1 on Rod Whitman - Great to see him getting some props for the work at Sagebrush




Ryan Admussen

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Re: Architects doing great work today that are seldom mentioned here
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2009, 10:36:05 PM »
Doug Carrick has built some very cool courses in Canada and one in Scotland, most of which I have not been fortunate enough to play - Ian Andrew worked with Doug for many years - I hope that Ian and Mike Weir get a chance to impress as courses start getting built again.

I have rarely seen Doug's name mentioned on the site - Cobble Beach, The Carrick on Loch Lomond, Muskoka Bay, Eagles Nest, Bigwin Island, Angus Glen, and Greywolf are a few of his courses. I know there are quite a number of Canadians here so I guess they don't think that Doug's work would inspire the treehouse. Maybe he is the Canadian Faz or something? Or is that Tom McBroom of Tobiano fame?

+1 on Rod Whitman - Great to see him getting some props for the work at Sagebrush


Tom McBroom is renovating a fairly new private course here in Calgary, it's looking not too bad so far, played Firerock in London this fall and quite enjoyed myself.

Only course of Doug  Carricks I've played is Greywolf, the 6th hole is a lot of fun, not a course I would want to play on a regular basis though

Other than Stanley Thompson I would say Rod Whitman is easily Canada's best architect, Wolf Creek is amazing, Sagebrush, Blackhawk and Cabot Links when it's done are all on my must play list, he also designed a lesser known course in Calgary called Springbank Links, not on par with his other courses but a fun course with some really tough holes!


Jeff_Mingay

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Re: Architects doing great work today that are seldom mentioned here
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2009, 09:39:25 AM »
Ryan,

For the record, Rod (Whitman) did the original routing at Springbank Links but was not involved with the project thereafter; which explains why the quality of that course doesn't match the other Whitman designs you mention.
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Ryan Admussen

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Re: Architects doing great work today that are seldom mentioned here
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2009, 12:37:17 PM »
Ryan,

For the record, Rod (Whitman) did the original routing at Springbank Links but was not involved with the project thereafter; which explains why the quality of that course doesn't match the other Whitman designs you mention.

That makes sense, thanks!

Roger Wolfe

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Re: Architects doing great work today that are seldom mentioned here
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2009, 01:24:07 PM »
I love Donald Steel's work at Primland (although I am pretty sure noone could screw up that heavenly property).  Has anyone else played his US courses?

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Carnegie Abbey, Newport, Rhode Island (18 holes) - 2000
Cherokee Plantation, South Carolina (18 holes) - 1999
Primland, Virginia (18 holes) - 2006
The Vineyard Club, Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts (18 holes) - 2002


Davis Cranford

Re: Architects doing great work today that are seldom mentioned here
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2010, 08:21:48 PM »
JMP Design (Moore, Hollinger, Costello). I've played 3 of their designs, and all are fun, memorable, and among the better public courses in their respective counties.

Callippe Preserve (Pleasanton, CA), Roddy Ranch (Antioch, CA) , The Heritage Club (Raleigh, NC).

These were also responsible for the redesign of Masonboro CC (formerly The Cape GC) in Wilmington, NC last year.  I was living on the 12th hole last year during their redesign and was able to watch a drab course be converted into a very attractive course, from start to finish.  Depending on how they keep the course maintained, it could give several of the more exclusive club courses a run for their money!

Chris Flamion

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Re: Architects doing great work today that are seldom mentioned here
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2010, 09:34:56 PM »
I don't think Jerry Pate and his lead designer, Steve Dana, get anywhere near as much attention as they are due.  Most of his courses are in the non-South Florida portion of the Southeast which is the overlooked part of the country on GolfClubAtlas.

They don't incorporate many recognizable homage features in their designs, but all that I've played have solid golf holes that work and offer a lot of different options around the greens.  Bunkering is primarily flat bottoms with grass faces, good looking with easy maintenance.  There are typically more ridges through greens at various angles than defined tiers.

I have played our Pensacola CC course (profiled in the My Opinion area), Steelwood, Kiva Dunes (both Alabama), and The Preserve near Biloxi.  I've heard really good things about Limestone Springs and Old Overton in Alabama, and Old Waverly and Dancing Rabbit in Mississippi.


I second this.  He designed Ol' Colony which is now Bama's home course which is a great course that is an absolute blast to play (and home of my only Eagle).  I have also played The Preserve.  I would take both of these courses as my daily play course if they charged twice what they do.  Fun courses that have the ability to make you think.

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