[Gib Carpenter]

I think #16 and #17 at Philadelphia Country Club are both really cool blind tee shots.

At #16 I love the neat "red light/green light" gizmo on the tee that tells you whether or not it's safe to hit. At both holes you have a real feeling of anticipation as you approach the crest of the fairway to see if your line was good enough and long enough to get to the flat of the fairway and allow a reasonable approach, particularly at #16 with its great "postage stamp" green site.

As far as blind par 3's go the Dell at Lahinch has been rightfully mentioned here...does anyone remember the late, great Mr. B.B. Dillon who caddied there for so many years? He once told me that the Dell was doubtless the "most aced" hole in all of golf thanks to the local urchins who would hide amongst the dunes and help provide the unknowing tourists with a story to take home with them...

Surely the longest "blind par 3" would be #16 at Waterville, at some 340 yds and  best known as "Liam's Ace" in honor of the feat of long-hitting pro Liam Higgins...Some rolling of the eyes of the local lads at the claim although the secretary-manager, Mr. Noel Cronin, assures visitors that joining Mr. Higgins in his group that day were not only his dear mother but also two local priests...

[Mark Bourgeois]

Actually, Pete Dye used to quote Tommy Armour with that quote about blind holes.

If a hole with a blind tee shot counts, I'd vote for the fourth at Royal Melbourne (West), followed closely by the eighth at Pebble and the ninth at Royal County Down.

If a blind green is required, the Dell at Lahinch is my own favorite.

Tom

The complaint I've heard about RM West 4 from both seniors and ladies is they don't catch a break; the options for playing around the dune bunkers are pretty limited.

So how about RM West 18 -- and Yale 17, despite the ridge being lowered several feet in the 1950s: watching the flight of the ball track the tree line down the right being a sentimental(?) memory.

RM West 18 from the tee


Mark

[Andy Levett]

Would MacK have considered RMW 18 blind?

Blindness was accepted back in the day, because it permitted a routing maximising 'pleasurable excitement' . Without the option of knocking down hills, golf would have been very dull if golfers had always expected to see instantly the results of their shots.

Curious thing about 5 at Prestwick, was it there to get to the sixth, or because the designer (Old Tom?) thought 'that's a sporting shot'? Did he seek it out, or was he stuck with it?

With the old gear, getting it up and over such a formidable hill and then down again to the green was a 'shot of the round' for amateurs

[Kyle Henderson]

16th at Pasatiempo is my new favorite in this category, though there are several blind shots at Tobacco Road that are near and dear to my heart.

Perhaps a player that is truly, physically blind should weigh in on this thread...

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