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Patrick_Mucci

The angular use of greens
« on: February 03, 2008, 01:04:15 PM »
Is a Biarritz akin to a Maiden green rotated 90 degrees ?

One of the things I've been fascinated by is the angular presentation of the double plateau green.

The 11th at NGLA is a reverse L, with a high left tier, a high back tier and a lower cental or connecting tier.

The 2nd at the Knoll has the plateaus angled differently, as does the 1st at Mountain Lake.  Likewise the 16th green at Essex County

Were greens like # 4 at Spyglass Hill mutant Biarritz's or double plateaus ?

Does the configuration of the "Road Hole" green allow it to be placed anywhere, at any orientation, irrespective of par ?

Is it not the most flexible and universally applicable green design in all of golf ?

TEPaul

Re:The angular use of greens
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2008, 01:17:22 PM »
"Does the configuration of the "Road Hole" green allow it to be placed anywhere, at any orientation, irrespective of par?"

Patrick:

Of course, you dimwit. I already explained that to you right there standing next to it at NGLA about five years ago. I even explained how to use it as a par 3 (which we just may do in Maryland) and I explained how it mimics the concept of Pine Valley's 1st green if approached as a long par 4 from the opposite direction from the par 3 concept (that is from the direction of the middle of the 11th if you can't even figure out what the opposite direction means).

On the other hand, you said the green would work great if approached from the direction of the Bottle hole. That wouldn't work at all, everybody would hate that concept, and it would be completely panned right out of the box so it makes sense you thought of it.

Consider the Short at NGLA. It would also work great in a number of iterations if approached from either its left or its right, but I don't think it would work at all if approached from behind in any iteration.

Furthermore, it's not particularly polite of you to just borrow all the interesting things I've taught you about architecture and try to make it look like you thought of them.

Patrick_Mucci

Re:The angular use of greens
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2008, 01:46:59 PM »
"Does the configuration of the "Road Hole" green allow it to be placed anywhere, at any orientation, irrespective of par?"

Patrick:

Of course, you dimwit. I already explained that to you right there standing next to it at NGLA about five years ago. I even explained how to use it as a par 3 (which we just may do in Maryland) and I explained how it mimics the concept of Pine Valley's 1st green if approached as a long par 4 from the opposite direction from the par 3 concept (that is from the direction of the middle of the 11th if you can't even figure out what the opposite direction means).

On the other hand, you said the green would work great if approached from the direction of the Bottle hole. That wouldn't work at all, everybody would hate that concept, and it would be completely panned right out of the box so it makes sense you thought of it.

Given your astute sense of direction, you'll be shocked to learn that approaching # 7 green at NGLA from the 8th fairway presents the almost identical approach as from # 7 fairway.

The orientation of the green and target are similar from both fairways.  The only difference is that from # 7 the green is elevated about 3 feet above the approach, whereupon, from the 8th fairway, the deep bunker would cause the green to be elevated a good 8-10 feet above the floor of the bunker.

Rather than take my word for it, look at Google Earth and you'll see that the approaches from # 7 and # 8 fairway, to that green, are almost identical.

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Consider the Short at NGLA. It would also work great in a number of iterations if approached from either its left or its right, but I don't think it would work at all if approached from behind in any iteration.

At the equivalent distance, I believe it would
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