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Matt_Cohn

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Boone Valley - US Junior Am
« on: June 26, 2007, 06:43:10 PM »
A friend just qualified for the Junior Am. If anyone can answer, for his benefit...

1. What kind of rough will he find at BV? Is it being grown out significantly?

2. Are there chipping areas, drop offs, or other repeated design features around the greens?

3. Any other distinctive design or setup elements for which he'd be smart to prepare?

Kye Goalby

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Re:Boone Valley - US Junior Am
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2007, 08:29:35 PM »
Matt,

I have played quite a few rounds at Boone Valley.  Usually the conditioning is as good  or better than anything in the St. Louis area ( it is located about 50 miles west of St. Louis, and you might need Daniel Boone to help find it ).  It has bent fairways and quick, somewhat  contoured bent greens .  It is a beautiful site that reminds me more of the Tennesee hills than  eastern Missouri.

The golf course is a PB Dye design with some modifications by Hale Irwin and the former course super, and I think present GM, Roger Null.

The design has some  pretty goofy stuff , as would be expected.  The blind lake next to  the elevated par five ninth green comes to mind-if it has not been changed, as much of the course has been "fixed" over the years.

It has  the formula Dye style perched greens, some planks and bulkheads, and deep flat bottomed bunkers. The primary bluegrass rough is usually not too thick, but there is fescue "native" outside the bluegrass  that can be found with a wild drive.  

The course has a good bit of elevation change, and the fairways have  some undulation and are not all that receptive.   From my experience in tourneys it is best to play safe, position golf and  not get greedy,  Usually there is not a reward for trying the heroic/sucker shot off the tee and it is often best to just hit the fairway on the par fives and short par fours, which means three wood, or often iron .    Hopefully your freind will figure this out in a pratice round or two.

Jim Nugent

Re:Boone Valley - US Junior Am
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2007, 02:36:06 AM »
Kye -- noticed your name and your familiarity with St. Louis courses.  Any relation to the famous golfer from Belleville?  

Matt_Cohn

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Re:Boone Valley - US Junior Am
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2007, 05:18:07 PM »
bump...I know this is a well-traveled group...!

Glenn Spencer

Re:Boone Valley - US Junior Am
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2007, 05:33:02 PM »
Matt,

I played in the Junior. The rough will be up, trust me. The USGA says they treat all their championships the same. I would expect nothing different, if I were him. It is like a mini US Open.  The course? I don't know a thing about it. Check the slope though. For some reason, I have it in my mind that it is an EXTREMELY hard golf course. Not sure though, thought I heard that somewhere.

Matt_Cohn

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Re:Boone Valley - US Junior Am
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2007, 06:27:35 PM »
The Mission: Challenge The Field

 

By Ken Klavon, USGA

Augusta, Mo. – Upon arrival, the Boone Valley Golf Club course looks like the kind of place to spend a serene day. Have a beverage cooler in tow and watch the balls fly harmlessly into a gaping blue sky.

That’s on first glimpse. The 156-player U.S. Junior Amateur field, beginning Monday, might have a different opinion.

As is the case with any USGA championship, the course and its degree of difficulty will ultimately lead to the crowning of a champion. The P.B. Dye-designed layout opened in 1992 off back roads some 45 minutes west of St. Louis. Its beauty lies in its rustic appeal and natural turf setting that consists of rye, fescue, bentgrass, weeds, native grasses, not to mention environmental pests like chiggers, snakes and ticks. It resembles something you might play in the northern regions of the country, or in this case, a desolate locale.

However, the tranquil setting is worthy of a mirage. With the exception of generous fairways that may otherwise provide a boost of false confidence, akin to being housed on a faulty foundation, the course is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

“The greens are just ridiculous,” said 17-year-old Alex Shi Yup Kim Sunday. “Some of the downhill putts you’ll be lucky to stop.”

Said 17-year-old Zack Sobel of Palm Harbor, Fla.: “They’re definitely hilly. You have to be careful with that. You don’t want to be putting over any hills; you want to be below the hole.”

To the naked eye, many of the bentgrass greens look as flat as a pancake. But there are dips and contours that don’t initially register until its too late if players aren’t careful. Of course, that was by design.

“Some of the greens are drained away from the lakes instead of toward them,” said Alan Clark, Boone Valley’s director of golf. “It gives the players awkward looks.”

Coupled with those looks will be the green speeds. Entering the first round of stroke play, greens were rolling between 11 and 11 ½ on the Stimpmeter. The intent is to keep them within that vicinity even if the course firms up later in the week.

Players that can read greens will no doubt benefit.

“There is so much variation in them,” said U.S. Junior Amateur Championship Director Genger Fahleson. “There are little nuances that make them deceptive.”

If the greens are the last line of defense, the rough presents an equal counterpart in the difficulty of solving Boone Valley G.C. The first cut was trimmed to 4 inches last Friday; the USGA’s has given indications that it will let it grow more. What this means is that inaccurate shots off the tee will make the course that much more penal, which Sobel agrees with. “It should be a penalty if you get in [the rough],” he said.

Shots off target will indelibly put more of a premium on the short-iron game, which Shi Yup Kim believes will make or break a championship for many. All in all, though, if the setup proves to test all facets of a player’s game, then the USGA has done its job this week.

“Just set it up and give them challenges,” said Fahleson. “Challenge them on tee shots, challenge their short game and challenge them on the green.”

Matt_Cohn

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US Junior Am
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2007, 10:48:57 AM »
Are all of the USGA's articles like this?

"

Bear Or Bull, Carter Proves Worth With 2 Crazy Rounds
By Ken Klavon, USGA

...The real story is how he achieved his likely place in match play. Metaphorically speaking, it was analogous to zig-zagging his way down San Francisco’s famously curvy Lombard Street. He didn’t crash, but he came perilously close to the edge....

...Eight over through his first 13 holes had Carter feeling as though the bottom fell out. He was nervous and tumbling into what felt like a pyre. He scratched his way to the finish, going to two under. Relaxation beckoned in the form of a hot tub later that night, which he said helped immensely.

Carter got bullish Tuesday, correcting his index (so to speak) by firing a 3 under in the second round. He started hotter than a habanero chili pepper...

...Many players will say par is the goal. Not Carter. He’s a gunslinger from the old wild West, going for broke...

"

http://www.usjunioram.org/news/carter.html

Mike Benham

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Re:Boone Valley - US Junior Am
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2007, 11:10:36 AM »
Reads like Mr. Klavon recently took a creative writing class ...
"... and I liked the guy ..."

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