JeffB:
It's really tough for me to say this because I've known the guy all my life and I love him and Alice, and I feel like who am I to question him but I've been around that place most all my life and have known the people from way back who really did know that place and some of the things Pete has said about Seminole seem positively bizarre, not just to me but to a lot of people.
Pete thinks Wilson redesigned a whole lot more of that place than Wilson possibly could have or did. Somebody should probably show Pete Ross's original plans for Seminole, and he might change his mind. Pete told me that Wilson significantly moved the third green, and I'm sorry but it's in the same place right now it was on Ross's preconstruction topo map. Check the position and all the contour elevation lines yourself.
A couple of years ago we were at the same tourney (PVGC actually) and a bunch of us were chatting with Pete. I hadn't seen him in a while and it was great. One of the guys was from Seminole and when Pete heard that he told the guy that the greens of Seminole are the worst greens in America. I wish I'd taken a photo of the guy's expression.
I'll tell you JeffB, I figure I'm pretty good at starting a barroom brawl all by myself but if I ever had any doubts about that I'd definitely take Pete in there with me.
My Dad and Pete and Alice were great old friends and that time at PV a few years ago Pete was telling me what great times they used to have and how much he loved my Dad. Pete told me sometimes Dad would drive him nuts like when Pete was in our house and the phone would ring and Dad wouldn't even notice it. Pete said finally he couldn't take it anymore and screamed "Goddamit Jimmy would you please answer the phone?" and he said Dad just looked at him calmly and said: "Pete, it doesn't sound like it's for me."