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Marty Bonnar

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Rig and Furrow Golf Courses
« on: November 30, 2006, 02:46:43 PM »
We've spoken of these before, but I happened to park the car beside Tulliallan GC yesterday. The tall trees and low summer (edit: ;D) sun conspired to illustrate wonderfully the old landforms left by the 'Archie'(?) on the 3rd fairway during construction. They are roughly diagonal to the line of play at this point at about 200 yds off the tee playing l to r up the hill.





Do we like these landforms?
Do they add anything to the playing of the game?
Do they detract?
Are they attractive?
Does the historic element interest us?

Would YOU remove or leave them?

FBD.
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cary lichtenstein

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Re:Rig and Furrow Golf Courses
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2006, 02:48:38 PM »
I would think the balls collect at the bottom of these and there are lots of divots depending on the amount of play
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Joe Hancock

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Re:Rig and Furrow Golf Courses
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2006, 04:09:44 PM »
Quote from: cary lichtenstein on November 30, 2006, 02:48:38 PM
I would think the balls collect at the bottom of these and there are lots of divots depending on the amount of play

If there is truth to that, then my vote would be that the grass is cut too short...which has nothing to do with firmness, I might add.

Joe
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ed_getka

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Re:Rig and Furrow Golf Courses
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2006, 04:13:20 PM »
I'm sure they would give you interesting stances and shot demands, but the symmetry of the humps make me think of planting crops, not golf. I think if they didn't go all the way across I could live with them.
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Joe Hancock

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Re:Rig and Furrow Golf Courses
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2006, 04:21:09 PM »
Our course has old farming furrows showing through the turf, and I hated it when I first got here. Now I realize on a very flat site that such little undulations can cause unusual lies and stances. Plus, i see the symetry of it as a testimony of the hertiage and previous use of the land.....sorry, I suddenly feel all weepy with nostalgia.... :'(

Joe
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" What the hell is the point of architecture and excellence in design if a "clever" set up trumps it all?" Peter Pallotta, June 21, 2016

"People aren't picking a side of the fairway off a tee because of a randomly internally contoured green ."  jeffwarne, February 24, 2017

ed_getka

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Re:Rig and Furrow Golf Courses
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2006, 06:14:28 PM »
Grandpa Joe, the softy. :)
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Jim Sweeney

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Re:Rig and Furrow Golf Courses
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2006, 06:54:10 PM »
I have no rpoblem with it but wouldn.t wabt a steady diet of it.

I prefer the randomness of naturally undulating land, or a reasonable facimile if the natural kind are not present.
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Brian_Ewen

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Re:Rig and Furrow Golf Courses
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2006, 11:42:36 PM »
Martin
Have you played Forfar ? .

I was there quite a bit this year , and tried several times to get some photos of their rig and furrow fairways , but it was never late enough in the day .

To be honest I always thought Forfars were unique . Are there anymore? .

Most of Forfars run across the fairways , and become annoying to walk over .

These were originally for drying jute ? .

Best Regards
Brian

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