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George Pazin

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What do you like? Look hard play easy or...
« on: July 13, 2006, 04:37:57 PM »
look easy play hard

or

look hard play hard

or

look easy play easy

or

look pretty play whatever. :)

I like look easy play hard, yet the Good Doctor was an advocate of look hard play easy.

How 'bout you?
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

Glenn Spencer

Re:What do you like? Look hard play easy or...
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2006, 04:42:42 PM »
I associate Dye with look hard, play easier and I love most of his courses.

I associate Ross with look easy, play hard and I love his courses.

Look easy, play easy is not my cup of tea.

Brent Hutto

Re:What do you like? Look hard play easy or...
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2006, 04:59:54 PM »
My short game is much better than my full swing which may be one reason I like the stereotypical Donald Ross course that gives you downhills and generous landing areas for tee shots, bunkers but perhaps not as threatening as they look on approaches and unexpected tricky features on and around the greens. It dovetails with my game.

That said, I prefer a course that actually plays easier than it appears to. The greens are the only places I enjoy unexpected difficulties. I've played a couple of courses that our own Paul Cowley contributed to the design of and found a bit of "plays easier than it looks" on them, to his credit IMO. The Love/Cowley course The Patriot on Lake Greenwood, SC has some wider-than-it-looks and shorter-than-it-looks holes from tee to green but many plateau and semi-plateau greens that are well designed. That's a good combination in my book.

Brent Hutto

Re:What do you like? Look hard play easy or...
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2006, 05:03:13 PM »
I associate Dye with look hard, play easier and I love most of his courses.

I think the Ocean Course plays easier than it looks (unless the wind is up and you're playing from 6,500+ yards in which case it's friggin hard period) but then you look at your score when you're done and it's worse than you thought.

That may not make sense but what I mean is there's enough room off the tee and on many approaches that you can get by with an imperfect shot even though it looks extremely demanding. But just because you got away with hitting it a bit sideways or short doesn't mean you're going to make par. You can feel like you got away with a bunch of marginal shots while you were playing but somehow you're still ten shots over your handicap. Great course.

George Pazin

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Re:What do you like? Look hard play easy or...
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2006, 05:14:15 PM »
That may not make sense but what I mean is there's enough room off the tee and on many approaches that you can get by with an imperfect shot even though it looks extremely demanding. But just because you got away with hitting it a bit sideways or short doesn't mean you're going to make par. You can feel like you got away with a bunch of marginal shots while you were playing but somehow you're still ten shots over your handicap. Great course.

I love your thinking, and agree with it completely, but I'm guessing the vast majority of the golf world would feel the exact opposite.

To me, look easy play hard is the epitome of the subtle course, which is an admittedly biased preference of mine.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

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