[PThomas]

I prefer Kingsley's ...#2 is too subtle for me to truly appreciate,  I think...perhaps it is because i'm a 15 handicapper???  is #2 more appreciated by you low handicappers???

[George Pazin]

Bumping - surprised no one's commented.

[Michael Wharton-Palmer]

I like both courses in their own way, but would select Kingsley to play if I was given the choice between the two.
I simply love DE vRIES' work at Kingsley..I found the course simply spellbimding, I could play there everyday and noy get tired of the shot options the lay out reflects...
I know that #2 has  iy's fair share of shot options and I think is a good course, I just prefer Kingsley..

[Mike_DeVries]

Paul and Michael,

Thanks for the compliments.  #2 is a pretty amazing place but Kingsley is 20 minutes from my house so I guess that makes it easy for me!  

Happy Halloween everyone!

[Matt_Ward]

Paul:

I am a huge fan of both courses -- if anything I can mention it's that #2 can handle championship play at the highest of levels -- as well as levels a bit further down the food chain. TKC was designed for member play and it clearly succeeds in a wonderful way.

The subtle elements at #2 can be quite vexing for people who play there once or just twice. I had the opportunity while a student in the Carolinas to sample #2 about 30-40 times. It's well done and although the US Open was a bit more dramatic with balls running off the tightly cropped areas -- the demands for positioning and for not throwing everything but the kitchen sink in terms of visual cues is what separates #2 from so many other courses.

The biggest reason #2 gets little raves from the higher handicap types is that too many of them have overdosed on playing courses where the visual / eye-candy elements are much more pronounced.

The Kingsley Club is simply a superb layout -- although I think there's a slight fall-off in terms of overall qualities of the ineer half versus the superb front nine.

[Geoffrey Childs]

I am one of the biggest fans of The Kingsley Club.  Even with its aclaim I feel that is perhaps the most UNDER appreciated great modern designs in the US.

I would absolutely choose to play TKC over Pinehurst #2.  I find the "subtle challenges" of #2 to be highly repetitive.  Give me the greens complexes at Wannamoisett or Plainfield any day.  They are varied and complex compared with #2 which are pretty simple once you actually are on them.  I played #2 with Burmuda and again with the over the top G2 bent and I preferred the burmuda.

If we can use Ran's fun meter to choose between the two courses I think TKC wins every time.  Its long par 4 15th holds up with #5 at Pinehurst #2.  Its par 3's are superior in every sense and its short par 4 #13 matches the great #3 at Pinehurst.  The par 5's may be a wash.  I give the nod to TKC on overall varied architecture as well.

[Michael Wharton-Palmer]

Redanman...I love it..as a lover of the only motor sport worth watching...thanks for the special treat..as long as MS did not win again!

[ForkaB]

"Motor sport" is one of the classic definitions of an oxymoron, along with "military intelligence" and "maintenance meld."

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"Maintenance Meld" is more properly a Paulian synechdoche.

Sorry

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[Peter Pratt]

I know nothing about NASCAR, so I'll return to the topic. I love the Kingsley Club, which I've played 5 times, and struggled with the greatness of Pinehurst #2, which I've played only once. I'd certainly like to play it more. I found myself playing to the center of almost every green at #2, which seemed limiting.

Kingsley is a blast. I play it once a year or so and can't wait to play again. For fun, variety, challenge, and options, there aren't many better that I've played in my limited experience.

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