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Marty Bonnar

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More authentic Frontier Gibberish...
« on: May 18, 2005, 12:11:22 PM »
Who said this, when, and about where? (clues removed...)

"There are times when you look round here and expect to see the sea. You can’t call it a links, of course, but it plays like a links and has all the characteristics of a links. In designing this course, I attempted to go back to a more traditional style."

Built on an open piece of parkland, the golfer has drawn on the philosophy which informs the best seaside courses around the British Isles. "There wasn’t one particular links which was an inspiration, but many seaside courses were in my mind," said the golfer yesterday. "The bunkers are tricky and offer a half-shot penalty. You won’t need a wedge to get out, but you might have to play a 9-iron.

"It’s my favourite of all the courses I’ve designed around the world so far and I think it’s the best. Usually, I would be pretty nervous about the prospect of having a course judged by my peers. But this golf course is special enough to overcome my natural sense of trepidation."

A test of brain power as much as shot-making - the champion on Sunday will need to manage his game shrewdly - he dismisses speculation that some will complain he’s created a monster.

"No, I don't think it’s a monster, but, yes, it can be scary. Off the back tees, it measures more than 7,300 yards, but I wouldn’t expect us to be playing from them this week.

"As a player as well as an architect, of course, you design holes which you can imagine yourself playing well. After all, it would be pretty odd to design a hole where you felt ‘Mmm, I’ve no idea how to play this one.’

"As a youngster, I was exposed to many of the greatest links and my design style is heavily influenced by those classics. There’s a strategic element about many of the holes. The site is relatively open with beautiful mature trees surrounding the perimeter of the estate. We had a lot of space to fill.

"True, there are plenty of bunkers. Many of the traps are deep, imposing and unforgiving. When I looked at great courses around the world - Royal Melbourne, Troon, Turnberry - I tried to work out what was so good about them. One thing that sprang to mind was bunkering. They are hazards and work with the prevailing wind. Few holes are straight up and down. The wind tends to blow across, which brings the bunkering into play. This is the kind of course, I feel, where the best players will always come out on top."

FBD

The White River runs dark through the heart of the Town,
Washed the people coal-black from the hole in the ground.

Dan Kelly

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Re:More authentic Frontier Gibberish...
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2005, 12:19:00 PM »
Howard Johnson?
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Andy Doyle

Re:More authentic Frontier Gibberish...
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2005, 12:20:50 PM »
I'm guessing Colin Montgomerie talking about Carton House (this week?).   I've always been impressed by how articulate he is -  ;).

Andy

Marty Bonnar

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Re:More authentic Frontier Gibberish...
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2005, 12:28:40 PM »
Ding dong, Andy,
right on the money.
What a(nother) crock of doodah from yet another pampered pooch of the PGA, eh?
The article actually mentions (in passing) the 'assistance' of Stan Eby. Stan, who works for European Golf Design (an IMG company) is obviously Monty's 'right-hand man' (is that illegal in some States?) for design work.
Quote: "the bunkers are tricky and offer a half-shot penalty"
Quote: "Many of the traps are deep, imposing and unforgiving".

Make up your mind, Colin...

Quote: "It's my favourite (ie sodding LATEST!!!) of all the courses I've designed around the World"

If I hear that from another Golfer turned Architect once more, I swear I'll join the freaking EIGCA!!!

My blood is a-boilin (and anyone who knows me, knows it takes a LOT before that occurs... :))

FBD.
The White River runs dark through the heart of the Town,
Washed the people coal-black from the hole in the ground.

Andy Doyle

Re:More authentic Frontier Gibberish...
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2005, 12:49:19 PM »
You won’t need a wedge to get out, but you might have to play a 9-iron.

This was my favorite.  You mean instead of having to hack it out with a wedge, you might be able to drop all the way down to a 9-iron?!

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Kirk Gill

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Re:More authentic Frontier Gibberish...
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2005, 01:01:51 PM »
One thing that sprang to mind was bunkering.

Brilliant !
"After all, we're not communists."
                             -Don Barzini

RJ_Daley

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Re:More authentic Frontier Gibberish...
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2005, 04:21:39 PM »
It sounds like it might be one of the best courses of its kind that he ever designed, in his whole life! ::)  Do you think Colin discusses his press releases with Gary Player?

Marty, it is up to you to find us a nice photo of Monty standing in some bare ground with rolled up plans and pointing off camera to some inspiring vista where he shall create the greatest test of links golf yet seen on a parkland plot of ground, whilst saving all the lovely mature trees.
No actual golf rounds were ruined or delayed, nor golf rules broken, in the taking of any photographs that may be displayed by the above forum user.

Dan Kelly

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Re:More authentic Frontier Gibberish...
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2005, 09:43:42 PM »
Howard Johnson?

Wasn't it Gabby Johnson who -- unlike Colin Montgomerie -- expressed that sentiment little seen in this day and age?

Rarin'!

I do believe you're right. It was Gabby -- who, if I'm not mistaken, also said: "The sheriff is a Ni ..."
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Brian Phillips

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Re:More authentic Frontier Gibberish...
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2005, 12:55:58 AM »
Martin,

One of the saddest things of all is that the press keep printing this crap.  I read the same sort of article yesterday in The Telegraph by Lewine Mair.  I always thought she was an honest sort of reporter....unless they printed it tongue in cheek!!

Brian
Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf

lesueur

Re:More authentic Frontier Gibberish...
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2005, 02:20:11 AM »
They're at it again. Only 2 days after the article Martin posted!

http://sport.scotsman.com/golf.cfm?id=546202005&20050519070515

"the features, particularly the bunkering, will be traditionally Scottish rather than in the flatter American style".

??

How many of these have to be printed before the developers realize that they're not getting something unique??