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Jfaspen

Creating a course for an event
« on: September 23, 2004, 08:56:36 AM »
Interesting article in today's detroit free press that details the 2010 ryder cup.  The host claims it is the first time a course has been built specifically for the Ryder Cup.
People could argue that ANGC was built for the Masters (or that it was at least a concern of Roberts and Jones) but the real question is "is this necessary"?

With all the great classic challenging venues scattered throughout the world, do we need to create venues (like the olympics)?
Here is a link to the article.
http://tinyurl.com/5z993
Jeff

Bill Gayne

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Re:Creating a course for an event
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2004, 09:03:13 AM »
Jeff, it's my understanding that the TPC Sawgrass was built for tournament play and the annual hosting of the TPC.

Marc Haring

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Re:Creating a course for an event
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2004, 09:59:00 AM »
Actually I thought Kiawah was built specifically for the Ryder Cup.

The original Wentwood Hills course was built for the Ryder Cup but it was deemed unsuitable by the PGA hence the rebuild. Personally I feel it is unsuitable for golf but that’s just my opinion.

SPDB

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Re:Creating a course for an event
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2004, 02:51:48 PM »
If you have tons of 1) money, and 2) stupidity, it's a great idea. But leveraging yourself to one event (and, let's face it,  one that will likely only occur once) is asinine, see the state of Greece/Athens finances right now and over the next XXyears.

Phil_the_Author

Re:Creating a course for an event
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2004, 04:10:24 PM »
Jeff,

Despite the claims made both in the article and by those involved, this is NOT  a case of creating a golf course for an event. A careful reading of the article shows they are adapting nearly half the course from an EXISTING one.

Yancey_Beamer

Re:Creating a course for an event
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2004, 06:18:45 PM »
I'm told that Sahalee was built with the PGA in mind and that it was announced at outset that their intent was to host that tournament.

Marc Haring

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Re:Creating a course for an event
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2004, 02:11:58 AM »
Jeff,

Despite the claims made both in the article and by those involved, this is NOT  a case of creating a golf course for an event. A careful reading of the article shows they are adapting nearly half the course from an EXISTING one.

Phil.

The original course was always built with the express purpose of staging the Ryder Cup. Unfortunately though the course turned out not to be adequate by the PGA hence the substantial rebuild.

Mike Vegis @ Kiawah

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Re:Creating a course for an event
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2004, 09:37:38 AM »
Actually I thought Kiawah was built specifically for the Ryder Cup.


In 1989, the PGA originally picked PGA West, I believe, until someone realized that if the event was held on the East Coast, it would mean prime time broadcasts in Europe.  Hence, Landmark got Pete Dye to build The Ocean Course on Kiawah...


Tony Ristola

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Re:Creating a course for an event
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2004, 10:26:45 AM »
It's not dumb if the market can support a tournament, has a tournament and you can sell it to the title sponsors.  Also, if there are no courses in the region which offer a challenge and the extra's which go into a modern event...Tented Village, parking etc.  

If the land loans itself to being spectator friendly, is accessible, secure...why not?  Multiple tees makes it playable for the masses.

I know of one such situation area...attempted to sell the project, but unfortunately time was not on my side, and the project went in another direction...

Though Crooked Stick wasn't designed for a tournament from the outset, it was designed to bring a stern test of golf to that area.  Oak Tree too.  That they managed to attract the PGA, more power to them.  I don't see anything wrong with setting your sights in that direction, especially when there is a hole in the market for that type of course. TPC Scottsdale was designed with a tour event in mind, and quite a few other TPC's too...or?

Didn't Tom Doak sout to create one of the best college courses in that nation from the plain in Texas?  It wasn't for an event, but could it be stretched it was for a similar purpose?

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