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Steve_ Shaffer

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Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« on: March 10, 2004, 07:44:34 AM »
With John Daly, Craig Stadler and Craig Parry winning recent tour events, is this concept of a combination golf/fitness club going to fly? This new club near Columbus,OH is designed by Arthur Hills and will open this spring.

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New Breed Of Golf Club Opens This Spring

POWELL, Ohio (February, 2004) - With 103 acres of lush fairways and perfectly manicured greens, Kinsale Golf and Fitness Club plans to offer a world-class challenge in the heart of small town Powell. The May 1st opening of Kinsale will elevate not only the game of golf in Columbus but also the concept of the full service private club.

Designed with more than golfers in mind, Kinsale will offer something for everyone in the family to enjoy. Amenities such as the fitness center, massage therapy, free nursery, lap swim, tennis courts and a playground will make it a destination with endless possibilities.

"We wanted to design a club that appealed to everyone in the family, not just the golfers," said Kim Vivalo-Michel, President of Triangle Golf and Athletic Clubs. "One of the most important aspects of The Club is our fitness center. We believe being physically fit is essential for success in every aspect of life, even on the golf course." Kinsale will staff professional fitness trainers and will offer fitness programs for all age groups.

Those who come to Kinsale for the golf course will not be disappointed. Designed by world-renowned golf course architect Arthur Hills the course calls for strategy but is created to offer redemption. "It's a straightforward, strategic golf course with a reward for every good shot and ample room to recover for lesser play," said Mr. Hills. Kinsale Golf and Fitness Club features an 18 hole, 72 par course measuring 7200 yards from the tips.

The turf on the course has been left to grown-in and mature for almost 2 years before opening. "Leaving the grass to grow and strengthen its roots without play for 2 years is like 5 years of growth with play. This along with Ohio's largest 18-hole irrigation system promises we will have well-established grass, conditioned to perfection when we open," said golf course superintendent Don Sutton.
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ForkaB

Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2004, 08:16:29 AM »
Don't forget O'Meara and Fiori!

Fat is fabulous. ;)
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Todd_Joseph

Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2004, 08:22:51 AM »
Steve,

Like several other new courses in the Columbus, the surrounding area, formerly farmland, will be developed heavily with mid sized homes, and condo's.  Midsized in Columbus is probably $250k-450k.     Purchasing a lot in the development will probably get you a discounted or free initiation to the club and monthly dues will likely be comparable to buying a regular health club membership plus eating out a few times a month.  Throw in a big pool, and they'll maintain a good volume of members.  

I haven't heard much about the course except that they've continually advertized that they are letting it grow in for two years.  

 
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mike_malone

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2004, 09:01:33 AM »
 A guy i used to work with and his asst. pro started a company to create exercise videos for golfers.Another guy in the office said it would not work since golfers are not interested in fitness.His words"What other sport can you smoke cigars and drink beer while playing?"
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Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2004, 09:37:45 AM »
Quote from: mayday_malone on March 10, 2004, 09:01:33 AM
Another guy in the office said it would not work since golfers are not interested in fitness.His words"What other sport can you smoke cigars and drink beer while playing?"

And "veg" around in carts.....


If this is truly a Golf and Fitness Club, wouldn't if be two-faced if they allowed carts for anyone other than those with a doctor's note?
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Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2004, 09:47:48 AM »
I have actually wondered for years why golf and fitness seem to only be a few touring pros vocabulary. I have felt for years there is a way to market golf and fitness together.
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2004, 10:03:10 AM »
Rich
I forgot about Fiori but I'm not so sure O'Meara qualifies. He's much taller in person than he appears on TV. I met him at an outing at Forsgate a few years ago. He's at least 6'3 " and does not now look heavy.

Golf fitness is a big industry now. How about Darren Clarke's recent transformation? And some guy named Tiger?There are many golf fitness programs here in Philadelphia area and more in places like Arizona. I just came across this:
www.thearizonagolfdoctor.com

Steve
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Dan Kelly

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2004, 10:25:25 AM »
Quote from: Steve (acer2x) Shaffer on March 10, 2004, 10:03:10 AM
Rich
I forgot about Fiori but I'm not so sure O'Meara qualifies. He's much taller in person than he appears on TV. I met him at an outing at Forsgate a few years ago. He's at least 6'3 " and does not now look heavy.

www.pgatour.com lists O'Meara as being 6 feet tall and 180 pounds.

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What other sports can you play while drinking beer and smoking cigars?

Well, two spring to mind: bowling and curling -- both of which are little more than excuses to drink and/or smoke. Or are they "games"?
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Bob_Huntley

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2004, 10:43:43 AM »
Steve Shaffer,

re: The Arizona Doctor bit.

Can anyone tell me why chiropractors use the honorific, "Dr." and then spell out D.C., at the end of their name?  Doctor, Doctor, seems a bit much on one business card.
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ForkaB

Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2004, 10:45:50 AM »
Cheeseo!

O'Meara seems to have shrunk by 7-8 cm in the course of a thread or so.  What is the over/under on where his weight is gong to end up?  Surely not anything south of 180.......

Dan K

Don't knock curling.  Outside of softball, it's the only sport I've broken a bone playing......

PS--I'm all for fitness, and sorry for hijacking the thread, if that is what it was all about.
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Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2004, 11:00:04 AM »
Quote from: Rich Goodale on March 10, 2004, 10:45:50 AM
Outside of softball, it's the only sport I've broken a bone playing.....

For me the only sport I've broken a bone playing is....aerobie.   :-[ :-[ :-[    And that was soon after playing tackle football.   :P   I'm probably the only person to have ever broken a bone (my arm) playing catch with an aerobie.  Telling how it was broken got old fast.

Actually, that's not entirely true.  I pulled a bone chip off my right wrist playing golf.   Catching a really fat one on hard ground swinging out of your socks can do that.

Anyone who's read my posts knows my thoughts on the fitness (as it pertains to walking) subject.  I've also met the hottie who does a fitness-for-golf commercial on TGC.  She and I went to the same high school.
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Andy Hughes

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2004, 11:09:15 AM »
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I'm probably the only person to have ever broken a bone (my arm) playing catch with an aerobie.  Telling how it was broken got old fast.
Oh my, my fitness must REALLY need help--I don't even know what an 'aerobie' is, though I recall Rick Robey playing for Kentucky many years ago.
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Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2004, 11:16:37 AM »
An aerobie is a frisbee with a big hole in it (a flat ring, basically), made out of heavy stiff rubber.  They can fly hundreds of yards.

I jumped back for a throw over my head, lost my footing, braced my fall with my arm, all of my weight was on it, and...snap.  Just below the wrist.  First full day back for sophomore year in college.  There went my golf plans for the following day (really).
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2004, 11:17:31 AM »
I just called the Kinsale Club for information re walking. I was told that they encourage walking and will have pull carts for those who don't want to carry their own bag. However, they will have carts for those who want to ride. I suggested that they require a doctors note for those who actually need a cart. They thought that might be a good idea.
Maybe I've shrunk but O'Meara looked taller than 6'0" His double chin makes him look heavier than he actually is.

Steve
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Andy Hughes

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2004, 11:21:10 AM »
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An aerobie is a frisbee with a big hole in it (a flat ring, basically), made out of heavy stiff rubber.  They can fly hundreds of yards.
Ahh, those I have seen. Never knew what they were called. Typical, isn't it? No problems playing football and basketball, but god help you if you try and play frisbee and golf!!  :)
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Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2004, 11:23:28 AM »
Here's more on Aerobie:

http://aerobie.com/

Guiness World Record Longest Throw:  1333 feet/406 meters.


Thanks for contacting Kinsale, Steve.  Gives them something to think about.

As for O'Meara, I'm 6 feet, 165-8 pounds and would love to weight 180 (not via fat nor an extra chin, though).


" No problems playing football and basketball".  That's not the case either.  I've sprained both ankles (on separate occasions) playing basketball.  Thank God for air casts.
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frank_D

Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2004, 01:08:10 PM »
Quote from: Steve (acer2x) Shaffer on March 10, 2004, 07:44:34 AM
Kinsale Golf and Fitness Club plans to offer the. ...concept of the full service private club. Amenities such as the fitness center, massage therapy, free nursery, lap swim, tennis courts and a playground will make it a destination with endless possibilities. ...important aspect of The Club is our fitness center..  

dear brother steve(acer2X)shaffer

maybe i'm just being thick headed - but how is this any different from the RESORT golf course idea which offer "golf memberships" ?

what i am thinking of for example are Ritz-Carlton / Tiburon Naples, Biltmore Hotel / Donald Ross course Miami , Doral Hotel & Spa / Blue Monster and Great White Shark courses Miami - along with many other RESORT GOLF and FITNESS combinations - the public can join GOLF or SPA memberships at each of these locations
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Andy Hughes

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2004, 01:32:35 PM »
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" No problems playing football and basketball".  That's not the case either.  I've sprained both ankles (on separate occasions) playing basketball.  Thank God for air casts.
Hmm, Scott, I am going to start thinking of you as either brittle or damn unlucky.

PS I was watching a bit of the VT game at lunch..you're losing to Rutgers!!
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RJ_Daley

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2004, 01:34:51 PM »
Shivas, haven't you been up to Cherokee CC in Madison.  They have been a full service health club-fitness center-golf club for 40+years.  Operated by the Tiziani family (Stricker's in-laws) they have racketball, in and outdoor tennis, and fitness center rooms.  They might be one of the most robust activities clubs anywhere...

http://www.cherokeecc.net/

But they missed the boat on curling ;) ;D

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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2004, 05:06:27 PM »
frank d
The difference is that this is not a resort course. Imagine, if you will, Merion, Baltusrol or Pine Valley with a full blown fitness center on the grounds.
By the way, that was not my quote but the PR piece which I posted. I have no interest in the club other than I found it curious. Many country clubs, including the one where I'm a social member, have fitness centers. However, the word "fitness" does not appear in the formal name of the club.
Steve
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RJ_Daley

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2004, 05:29:18 PM »
The trouble with it was, and maybe still is (I haven't played it since the 80s) it is a freakin bog.  It is the wettest course in Mad Town.  Lot of interesting folk as members though...
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Jason Mandel

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Re:Interesting Concept: A Golf AND Fitness Club
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2004, 05:53:40 PM »
Shivas,

I can report that as of Halloweeen 2001, KK and Brathouse were still there, don't really remember too much else about that weekend, except UW lost to MSU.  great college town though.  also, the ride from milwaukee to madison had to be the FLATTEST ride this east coaster has ever ridden.

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RJ_Daley

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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2004, 05:58:18 PM »
Freinds and aquiantences of mine still manage/own Nitty Gritty, KK, Red Shed.  ChurchKey, Flamingo, Genna's long gone (Frank G and Albert S dead), Brat House and Joe Harts remodelled under new management - not restored... ::)  Turk the golf hustler from Genna's, dead.  

In my hayday, that was "Da Mare's" neighborhood as I was the night shift beat officer there for many years in the early 70s.  All the barkeeps and owners were my friends back in the day...
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RJ_Daley

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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2004, 06:05:59 PM »
We are boring the treehouse to death Dave.  I'll tell you some old Mad town war stories at KPIII or where ever we cross paths...nothing like a liquored up old copper telling stories how rough it was back in the days of war riots and football-halloween revelries ;) ::)  
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