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Jon Claydon

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« on: November 22, 2021, 05:14:20 PM »
I have to be in Vegas for a work conference in February.  One of my colleagues is setting up golf and floated the following options:


-Wynn
-Paiute Golf Club
-Bali Hai
-Rio Secco


any thoughts on these is appreciated, as are any thoughts on other interesting spots to play in town.


Thanks



Cal Seifert

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2021, 05:22:12 PM »
Sand Hollow is 2 hours away. I haven’t been myself but I know others have mentioned it before as a place worth traveling to when in Vegas.

Chris Mavros

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2021, 05:32:49 PM »
I played Rio Secco and Wynn of those a few months ago.  Wynn was a lot more engaging than I was expecting with a nice set of greens while Rio was enjoyable yet not a whole lot to think about for each shot.  I put most of my thoughts and photos of the holes of each course on my site, too much to post here! 

Jerry Kluger

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2021, 10:24:13 PM »
I remember the Wolf Course at Paiute as being very good.  We also made a drive over to Primm Valley which is just over the border into California and about an hour from the strip and it was good value which is hard to find.

Steve Lapper

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2021, 06:30:35 AM »
For fun, aesthetics and uniqueness, Wolf Creek in Mesquite,NV is impossible to top.


It's 90 minutes away from LV and is a wild and unusual course with a moonscape like quality that isn't found many other places in the US.


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Bruce Katona

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2021, 09:30:15 AM »
In the past I always found the Paiute courses enjoyable to play and considered them all worth the price of admission.

Will Spivey

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2021, 10:15:07 AM »
I remember the Wolf Course at Paiute as being very good.  We also made a drive over to Primm Valley which is just over the border into California and about an hour from the strip and it was good value which is hard to find.


Of those you listed I'd strongly recommend The Wolf @ Piaute. I played it again just a few weeks ago -- solid golf course.


Others have mentioned some excellent options, but they are further afield. From the strip Piaute is 30 - 45 minutes. If you go, once you enter the reservation, DON'T SPEED! That's a nice little ancillary revenue source for them. Don't ask how I know...

Eric Smith

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2021, 10:35:07 AM »
The Wynn is awesome. Waking up with a view of the course you'll take an elevator down to is pretty cool.



Dan Gallaway

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2021, 10:49:01 AM »
Bali Hai is pretty....if that's your thing.  Rio Secco was a diversion from the casino/pool for a day, but not much more.  Wynn was an unexpected surprise.  Lots of width and options in a small space.  Would definitely play it again.  I tried last week while I was there, but they were booked solid for the entire week.  About the only place I haven't played in Vegas is Paiute, and its tops on the list (as the only place left, I guess it has to be?). 


I did end up playing Royal Links, which doesn't play like a links.  Bump and run is not an option.

Kalen Braley

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2021, 01:08:53 PM »
No Reflection Bay or Cascata recommendations? I'm shocked...very shocked!   ;D

Phil Carlucci

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2021, 02:39:46 PM »
Have only been to Vegas once and I played two rounds at Paiute while my wife was at a convention.  I have nothing there to compare it to, but I thought it was great. 
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Stewart Abramson

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2021, 04:02:30 PM »
Sand Hollow is my favorite of the courses mentioned on this thread so far, but it's 140 miles away and a two hour drive (or more) from the LV strip.


Wolf Creek and Conestoga are polarizing courses. Lots of eye candy at each. Very memorable, but not everyone's cup of tee. Worth playing once so you can decide for yourself. They are approx 90 miles from the strip. If I was driving that far, I'd likely go the extra distance to Sand Hollow


My favorites within 30 minutes of the strip are the three Paiute courses. They also are a decent bang for the buck (by Vegas standards at least.)


Here are links to photos of those courses.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/golfcoursepix/sets/72157632722304523/  Sand Hollow pix


https://www.flickr.com/photos/golfcoursepix/sets/72157631993233294/  Wolf Creek pix


https://www.flickr.com/photos/golfcoursepix/sets/72157632732288756/  Conestoga Pix


https://www.flickr.com/photos/golfcoursepix/sets/72157631989719954/  Paiute Wolf pix


https://www.flickr.com/photos/golfcoursepix/sets/72157631988517935/  Paiute Snow Mtn Pix


https://www.flickr.com/photos/golfcoursepix/sets/72157641144038584/  Paiute Sun Mtn pux

Joel_Stewart

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2021, 05:05:32 PM »
For fun, aesthetics and uniqueness, Wolf Creek in Mesquite,NV is impossible to top.


I'll second that about Wolf Creek.


Close to the strip I'll suggest,


Royal Links which surprised me. https://royallinksgolfclub.com/


Bears Best is a Nicklaus course of his favorite holes and is decent.  https://www.clubcorp.com/clubs/bear-s-best-las-vegas


I'd stay away from Cascata and Rio Secco which are Rees Jones courses.


Las Vegas National is horrid.




Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2021, 06:15:02 PM »
I agree with Wolf at Pauite and Wynn.


Nearby Boulder Creek was a surprise: https://www.bouldercreekgc.com/boulder-creek-course-overview/




As far as Wolf Creek goes, I would make sure the carts have seat belts and if it's a very windy day, I wouldn't bother driving there.


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Rob Marshall

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2021, 06:36:44 PM »
I played the original Puite course when it first opened. The clubhouse was a trailer. Inside the Trailer was Ryder Cup bag of Johnny Pott. He was the pro there at the time.
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2021, 06:49:01 AM »

I remember the Wolf Course at Paiute as being very good.  We also made a drive over to Primm Valley which is just over the border into California and about an hour from the strip and it was good value which is hard to find.

If you go to @buffalogolfer instagram, you can see photos of both courses at Primm Valley. Take a look at it on Google Maps/Earth. It is a little square surrounded by ... solar farms. The PGA Tour Champions just finished up a Q-School there. Two courses on one site makes a drive a bit easier. You also pass Little Las Vegas, which is Primm the town, on the NV side of the border.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2021, 06:51:11 AM by Ronald Montesano »
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2021, 06:52:25 AM »

I remember the Wolf Course at Paiute as being very good.  We also made a drive over to Primm Valley which is just over the border into California and about an hour from the strip and it was good value which is hard to find.


If you go to @buffalogolfer instagram, you can see photos of both courses at Primm Valley. Take a look at it on Google Maps/Earth. It is a little square surrounded by ... solar farms. The PGA Tour Champions just finished up a Q-School there. Two courses on one site makes a drive a bit easier. You also pass Little Las Vegas, which is Primm the town, on the NV side of the border.

The courses are both Fazio courses. The rumor that I once heard was, TF had a non-compete due to Shadow Creek, so could not build within a certain distance of SC in NV. The loophole was to build across the state line, literally. Cute story, true or not.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2021, 05:13:29 PM by Ronald Montesano »
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Steve Lapper

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2021, 08:02:51 AM »
I agree with Wolf at Pauite and Wynn.


Nearby Boulder Creek was a surprise: https://www.bouldercreekgc.com/boulder-creek-course-overview/




As far as Wolf Creek goes, I would make sure the carts have seat belts and if it's a very windy day, I wouldn't bother driving there.


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Steve,


   You are right about the wind exposure at Wolf Creek. It's a consideration for sure.


BTW...Having played the Wynn 2X (and having the greens fee picked up by the casino host for a member of our party), you'd have to pay me at least $600 to play there (the extra $50 is a getting out of bed fee :`)
« Last Edit: November 24, 2021, 06:38:52 PM by Steve Lapper »
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Ken Fry

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2021, 02:57:55 PM »
Paiute.


The peace and quiet away from the strip is wonderful.


The back porch view for pre and/or post round drinks can’t be beat.


Any of the three courses are enjoyable.  As much as I like the Wolf course, i’m not a fan of the water feature holes.  Too gimmicky.  The architecture otherwise is solid.


As was mentioned earlier, you can’t beat the price for the experience you get.


Ken

Kalen Braley

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2021, 03:29:53 PM »
Speaking of Vegas.....this kinda stuff always seem to feel ok cause its Vegas right?   ;D

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Rick Sides

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2021, 05:43:35 PM »
Wolf Creek is a fun course !!!!

Mark Kiely

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2021, 10:37:26 PM »
Really surprised there aren't more mentions of Boulder Creek. Paiute courses are good but there's such a sense of sameness throughout the 54 holes. Boulder Creek has lots of interesting features and is far more memorable imo. Coyote Springs is really good, too.
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Gib_Papazian

Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2021, 01:19:08 AM »
Polarizing suggestion, but at once wildly entertaining and borderline bizarre:

Desert Pines 

It's routed on a 90 acre, square piece of property on the wrong end of town. Along the way, you'll pass a parade of hinky hustlers, kinky tweekers and lost souls in what amounts to the human trash bin of Vegas they never show in their flashy ads.

However, each hole is so obviously contrived and shoe-horned together, there are all sorts of entertaining features . . . . like a fake version of a golf course, but built at 7/8 size.

That probably does not sound promising, but it is not a "bad" golf course at all - it is just unique in a disorienting, Perry Dye sort of way.

Each hole is bordered by mounding on the fringes, covered in dwarfish pine trees, growing out of a bed of dry needles.

When Her Redness was a prof at UNLV, I found myself going back in the same way you cannot resist watching a strange movie several times for the perverse amusement.

Bali Hai is just silly and ridiculously overpriced. Agree Royal Links is worth a try - although play it in the afternoon as they drench the course early.

Cascata is like paying $400 for a blow up hooker doll.

But if you want to take a drive to Boulder City, I promise you that Boulder Creek GC (original 18) is TERRIFIC - thoughtful, strategic and full of maddening choices. Plus, you will not leave feeling like your credit card was molested. It is the 2nd best track in Vegas after Shadow Creek.
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Jeff Schley

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2021, 04:44:32 AM »


Cascata is like paying $400 for a blow up hooker doll.


Gib, and how would you know that?  ;D
Also, what opinion do you have of the rest of us posters here to think we can relate?  :o
Always entertaining insights however.
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Tim Leahy

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2021, 11:47:10 PM »


Cascata is like paying $400 for a blow up hooker doll.


Gib, and how would you know that?  ;D
Also, what opinion do you have of the rest of us posters here to think we can relate?  :o
Always entertaining insights however.
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