If the question was a more general one pertaining generally to all topics, my answer would be "what time is it?". But in relation to Golf Club Architecture, I really don't think in terms of right and wrong, correct and incorrect. I came to this site around 20 years ago as someone who had a keen interest in the topic, had done a lot of reading, had been around a few renovations and knew a little about some new construction. But I knew that I had (and still have) a lot to learn. So of course my views changed. Exposure to other points of view, information from those involved in the profession and learning about more and better courses supplied me with knowledge and perspectives that helped inform and change my understanding of our favorite topic. In particular, I learned a lot more about the difficulty and importance of routing. I learned a greater appreciation of unconventional features (quirk) and I came to appreciate the use of natural features as opposed to a reliance on earth moving. That is not to say that I had no previous appreciation of these issues, rather that I gained a greater understanding of these and other issues. But that should be the case for all of us. I do not believe that any of us should approach this forum as a debating society where we try to prove that we are "right" or know more than others. I will stipulate that there are many here who know more than I about many issues . Candidly, if there was nothing to learn, I would spend my time elsewhere except to the extent that I have made friends with whom I like to "check - in". So if we all are prepared to accept the fact that our views can change, or as Peter put it, that we can be "wrong", perhaps fewer of our discussions will devolve to attacks on the person rather than the substance of our remarks. Aggressive exploration of the thought and evidence behind any proposition is an important method of evaluating the value of positions taken so I do not shirk from spirited debate. But if we really want to expand our understanding of this art, we should not be afraid to admit that that our views can change when presented with compelling facts and logical arguments. If that admission means admitting that I have been wrong, I have no problem with that admission.