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Terry Lavin

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Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« on: September 07, 2020, 09:51:04 AM »
Greater Chicagoland, in no particular order:


Knollwood
Edgewood
Flossmoor
Onwentsia
Midlothian
Exmoor
Medinah 1
Medinah 2
Glen View
Bryn Mawr


Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.  H.L. Mencken

jeffwarne

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2020, 10:39:56 AM »
Places I've lived
Westchester-Apawamis
Long island-St George's, Inwood,Bellport,Goat Hill(under rated given most think it's a 0)
Aiken/Augusta-Midland Valley
Miami-Miami Springs
Hilton Head-Spanish Wells
Sea island-Great Dunes
« Last Edit: September 07, 2020, 11:10:45 AM by jeffwarne »
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Cliff Hamm

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2020, 10:54:01 AM »
In Rhode Island public golf is not strong.  Pinecrest though is an excellent 9 holer that no one has heard of.


https://www.pinecrestri.com/


On the private side Agawam Hunt.  Metacomet is getting the press because of Faxon's selfishness.  Agawam Hunt is 5 or so minutes away and for the time being accepting public tee times.  May not be quite as good architecturally, but I find it more enjoyable.  Tremendous variety of holes and as a non-member the club makes you feel welcome.  Played the other day and members let us through!  Played in 3 hours 15 minutes vs over 4.5 hours at Metacomet a few weeks ago.


https://www.agawamhunt.com/about



« Last Edit: September 07, 2020, 10:57:39 AM by Cliff Hamm »

Joel Pear

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2020, 11:17:48 AM »
Although not really in the Chicago area (about a 2.5 hour drive), I feel the TPC Deere Run is vastly underrated.  Really beautiful piece of land with a terrific collection of holes.

David_Tepper

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2020, 11:23:35 AM »
In the SF Bay Area, the Meadow Club in Marin County and Claremont in Oakland probably qualify. Both have had very well done restorations in the last 10-15 years.

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2020, 12:13:22 PM »
Places I've lived
Westchester-Apawamis
Long island-St George's, Inwood,Bellport,Goat Hill(under rated given most think it's a 0)
Aiken/Augusta-Midland Valley
Miami-Miami Springs
Hilton Head-Spanish Wells
Sea island-Great Dunes


Jeff,


Can you explain the connection between Linksoul and Goat Hill?


https://linksoul.com/collections/the-goat

Tim Martin

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2020, 12:28:40 PM »
In Rhode Island public golf is not strong.  Pinecrest though is an excellent 9 holer that no one has heard of.


https://www.pinecrestri.com/


On the private side Agawam Hunt.  Metacomet is getting the press because of Faxon's selfishness.  Agawam Hunt is 5 or so minutes away and for the time being accepting public tee times.  May not be quite as good architecturally, but I find it more enjoyable.  Tremendous variety of holes and as a non-member the club makes you feel welcome.  Played the other day and members let us through!  Played in 3 hours 15 minutes vs over 4.5 hours at Metacomet a few weeks ago.


https://www.agawamhunt.com/about


The gate at Agawam Hunt Club is almost directly across the street from the Sunshine Creamery. An afternoon time is required so you can go to Sunshine on the way in and the way out. They wrote the book on hot fudge distribution.

Cal Seifert

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2020, 01:10:23 PM »
Places I've lived
Westchester-Apawamis
Long island-St George's, Inwood,Bellport,Goat Hill(under rated given most think it's a 0)
Aiken/Augusta-Midland Valley
Miami-Miami Springs
Hilton Head-Spanish Wells
Sea island-Great Dunes


Jeff,


Can you explain the connection between Linksoul and Goat Hill?


https://linksoul.com/collections/the-goat


Wrong Goat Hill. This one is located on Shelter Island, NY

Pete Lavallee

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2020, 01:34:17 PM »
The Goat Hill in Oceanside was rescued by John Ashworth; Freddie wore his shirts for years. They were nicely baggy and even JakaB could wear them. Sadly his new line Link Soul is tighter than a GCAer asked to pitch in for food at a Kings Putter. The Goat Hill in So. Cal. is quite an interesting course with 1 par 5, several steeply sloped par 4s and quite a few knob to knob par 3s in the 200 yard range.
"...one inoculated with the virus must swing a golf-club or perish."  Robert Hunter

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2020, 01:40:37 PM »
Thanks, I didn't know Ashworth and Linksoul were connected. I'll check some out if I ever make it to WP9.


WP9 is not underrated in the Orlando area, Mystic Dunes is.

Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2020, 02:00:02 PM »
I was a member at Four Streams outside DC for fifteen years. I does ok in the state rankings but I have always felt it doesn't get the notoriety it should. Smyers showed restraint in his bunkering and designed some really good greens. Besides that, it is just a great club. All individual memberships with a great caddie program and golf culture. I miss it like crazy since I moved away.
Where there is no love, put love; there you will find love.
St. John of the Cross

"Deep within your soul-space is a magnificent cathedral where you are sweet beyond telling." Rumi

mike_malone

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2020, 05:32:07 PM »
Merion West
Stonewall North
Torresdale
Waynesborough
French Creek

I’m not as sure that they are underrated as they are overlooked or ignored.

Philadelphia
« Last Edit: September 07, 2020, 05:51:41 PM by mike_malone »
AKA Mayday

Ken Moum

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2020, 06:48:53 PM »
Places I've lived
Westchester-Apawamis
Long island-St George's, Inwood,Bellport,Goat Hill(under rated given most think it's a 0)
Aiken/Augusta-Midland Valley
Miami-Miami Springs
Hilton Head-Spanish Wells
Sea island-Great Dunes


Warne,


Your places "I've lived" list makes me hate you... ;D
Over time, the guy in the ideal position derives an advantage, and delivering him further  advantage is not worth making the rest of the players suffer at the expense of fun, variety, and ultimately cost -- Jeff Warne, 12-08-2010

jeffwarne

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2020, 07:57:01 PM »
Places I've lived
Westchester-Apawamis
Long island-St George's, Inwood,Bellport,Goat Hill(under rated given most think it's a 0)
Aiken/Augusta-Midland Valley
Miami-Miami Springs
Hilton Head-Spanish Wells
Sea island-Great Dunes


Jeff,


Can you explain the connection between Linksoul and Goat Hill?


https://linksoul.com/collections/the-goat


Wrong Goat Hill
though I've been to both
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

jeffwarne

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2020, 08:04:22 PM »
Places I've lived
Westchester-Apawamis
Long island-St George's, Inwood,Bellport,Goat Hill(under rated given most think it's a 0)
Aiken/Augusta-Midland Valley
Miami-Miami Springs
Hilton Head-Spanish Wells
Sea island-Great Dunes


Warne,


Your places "I've lived" list makes me hate you... ;D


Well, I could've added  Athens, Ga in the Herschel era(where I went to school and worked at Athens CC-very under rated)
but you'd hate me more...
It gets better.
In Westchester I lived on the grounds of Sleepy Hollow(which was quite under rated at that time)
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Buck Wolter

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2020, 08:17:33 PM »
I'm not all that versed in Minneapolis Courses but I thought Minikahda was terrific. It got very little love in the MSP and the Ross rankings here. I know its got a great pedigree and can't be a hidden gem but it still seems underappreciated.

Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience -- CS Lewis

Matt Frey, PGA

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2020, 08:23:00 PM »
Merion West
Stonewall North
Torresdale
Waynesborough
French Creek

I’m not as sure that they are underrated as they are overlooked or ignored.

Philadelphia


I second Stonewall North. I would also nominate North Hills.

Paul Carey

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2020, 08:27:06 PM »
I was a member at Four Streams outside DC for fifteen years. I does ok in the state rankings but I have always felt it doesn't get the notoriety it should. Smyers showed restraint in his bunkering and designed some really good greens. Besides that, it is just a great club. All individual memberships with a great caddie program and golf culture. I miss it like crazy since I moved away.
I hate to just reiterate Tommy’s post but I agree. 4 streams is the most underrated course in the mid Atlantic area.   Fun, challenging and ( at one time ) a quality membership.   In the dc area Columbia is good, congressional a drag and Chevy Chase could be so much better.
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2020, 08:29:18 PM »
Portland
Two privates
Illahe Hills in Salem and Arrowhead in Molalla
Public
Langdon Farms in the south suburbs

mike_malone

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2020, 09:08:33 PM »
Merion West
Stonewall North
Torresdale
Waynesborough
French Creek

I’m not as sure that they are underrated as they are overlooked or ignored.

Philadelphia


I second Stonewall North. I would also nominate North Hills.


North Hills was on the tip of my tongue, Matt.
AKA Mayday

Mike_Trenham

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2020, 09:33:37 PM »
Merion West
Stonewall North
Torresdale
Waynesborough
French Creek

I’m not as sure that they are underrated as they are overlooked or ignored.

Philadelphia


I second Stonewall North. I would also nominate North Hills.


North Hills was on the tip of my tongue, Matt.


Concord having eliminated its worst two holes means they should be added to this list.
Proud member of a Doak 3.

Blake Conant

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2020, 09:34:45 PM »
Omaha area:


River Wilds - (9 holes added by Eric Iverson)
Elmwood - short and steep
Arbor Links - a very solid Palmer course

Parker Page

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2020, 12:29:40 AM »
In the Nashville area, it's mainly Golf Club of Tennessee.  I would throw Richland in there as well, but most people don't agree with me.  Harpeth Hills probably needs a little work before it can even make this list. 


Now if we expanded the list to the rest of Tennessee, then the list could go on for a while...
Judge Smails: "How do you measure yourself against other golfers?"

Ty Webb: "...Height?"

Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2020, 08:45:37 AM »
Omaha area:


River Wilds - (9 holes added by Eric Iverson)
Elmwood - short and steep
Arbor Links - a very solid Palmer course


I played Arbor Links last year and found it to be very good. It has a pretty tough finish. Palmer did a good job with the land he had.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2020, 08:53:23 AM by Tommy Williamsen »
Where there is no love, put love; there you will find love.
St. John of the Cross

"Deep within your soul-space is a magnificent cathedral where you are sweet beyond telling." Rumi

J_ Crisham

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Re: Most Underrated Courses in your City/area
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2020, 08:56:16 AM »
Greater Chicagoland, in no particular order:


Knollwood
Edgewood
Flossmoor
Onwentsia
Midlothian
Exmoor
Medinah 1
Medinah 2
Glen View
Bryn Mawr
I would add the recently restored Lake Shore CC , Elgin CC, and Westmoreland

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