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Joe Bausch

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early origins of Minebrook GC in Hackettstown, NJ
« on: June 16, 2020, 04:13:19 PM »
Recently Mike Cirba and I played Minebrook Golf Club in Hackettstown, NJ, a public course that originally began as Musconetcong CC, opening as a private 9-hole course in 1920.

Mike had played the course previously about 10 years ago and suggested we play it after having visited the Steel Club "Hill 9" earlier in the day.

Before the round at Minebrook we met with a local resident, Karl Jensen, that has researched the origins of the course at an impressive level.  We learned the original nine holes was designed by golden-age architects Herbert Strong and William Tucker according to a November 1920 article from the Hackettstown Gazette (courtesy of the Fulton History site):



In the 1965 the owner of the course, John Rocco, added another 9 holes and modified how one hole of the original 9 plays.

Here is how the original 9 holes would sit on the current Google Earth aerial:



Here is the hole-sequencing of the current 18 hole course:



So all of the original 9 greens still exist.  An awkward part of the course is the now par 3 7th hole (originally the 3rd) that is played at a complete opposite direction as originally!

Of those 9 original greens, here they are pics of 4 of them (all are clickable to a larger size):

#3 (uphill par 4):



#7 (par 3):



#17 (par 3):



#18 (par 5):



You can view the entire photo tour of Minebrook here:

http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/albums/Minebrook/index.html

Enjoy!
« Last Edit: June 16, 2020, 04:17:38 PM by Joe Bausch »
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MCirba

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Re: early origins of Minebrook GC in Hackettstown, NJ
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2020, 10:08:57 PM »
Some "Strong" greens there on the original holes.
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: early origins of Minebrook GC in Hackettstown, NJ
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2020, 11:20:46 PM »
Joe:


The article seems to suggest that course was designed by the "committee" who took some of the suggestions and plans of Tucker and Strong after they had been over the course, with Strong coming up with a plan for bunkers and traps.


Seems a bit of a stretch to say the original 9 holes were designed by Tucker and Strong.


Sven
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MCirba

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Re: early origins of Minebrook GC in Hackettstown, NJ
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2020, 11:41:08 AM »
Sven,

There is no question that there was a committee in charge who seemingly made final determinations around what they saw as their guiding principles for the course (i.e. lots of width, no penal artificial hazards) where admittedly most of the membership was new to the game.   Dr. Trevorrow was the guiding force and had experience with the game and it seems from another article we have that one Charles Wade essentially supervised construction without pay as a member of the Greens Committee.

The article states, "the committee has had, and expects to have expert advise in laying out the course".   However, what I find different from some other collaborative efforts we've sometimes debated here is that both Herbert Strong and Willie Tucker were paid professionals, so for them to have been engaged would have required a binding contract and subsequently an outlay of cash by the budding club for the work.   There is also reference to seemingly an already agreed further contractual engagement with Strong for a future bunkering plan to be implemented by the club over time.   It's difficult to imagine that the club would have paid very experienced, highly-regarded golf architectural and construction professionals and then fail to utilize that advice, except perhaps to put the brakes on anything too stringent for membership as the article alludes.

There's also the evidence on the ground and having played quite a number of Strong courses the original greens, despite  the typical shrinkage, show a level of sophistication consistent with that level of expertise.   That's hard to fake.
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: early origins of Minebrook GC in Hackettstown, NJ
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2020, 04:22:08 PM »
Mike:


Reads much more like a consultation than a design job to me.  Happened all the time, especially for lower profile smaller budget projects.


Sven
"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

Joe Bausch

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Re: early origins of Minebrook GC in Hackettstown, NJ
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2020, 07:01:07 PM »
"(Strong and Tucker) have been over the course and their suggestions and plans most carefully considered . . ."


I’m going with design and not a consultation. 😄
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: early origins of Minebrook GC in Hackettstown, NJ
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2020, 08:06:34 PM »
Since we're selectively quoting from the article, how about this one:


"The committee has, therefore, laid out..." 


The quote you provided sounds to me like Tucker and Strong visited a course that had already been laid out and made suggestions.  Which would suggest that someone would have had to have laid it out before they got there.


Like to see some more on this before jumping to any further conclusions.



"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

Joe Bausch

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Re: early origins of Minebrook GC in Hackettstown, NJ
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2020, 08:49:13 PM »
Since we're selectively quoting from the article, how about this one:


"The committee has, therefore, laid out..." 



“The committee has HAD...”



@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Sven Nilsen

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Re: early origins of Minebrook GC in Hackettstown, NJ
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2020, 10:14:01 PM »
Time to get those eyes checked Joe.
"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

Joe Bausch

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Re: early origins of Minebrook GC in Hackettstown, NJ
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2020, 02:15:19 AM »
Time to get those eyes checked Joe.


Good won, Zvin.
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

MCirba

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Re: early origins of Minebrook GC in Hackettstown, NJ
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2020, 10:03:35 AM »
I love the smell of parsing in the morning.   Carry on, gentlemen.   ;D
"Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent" - Calvin Coolidge

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Jim Sherma

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Re: early origins of Minebrook GC in Hackettstown, NJ
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2020, 06:04:31 PM »
Don’t know about the attribution but can recommend the day out. Played Minebrook a few times and always liked it. Worth a play if you’re in the area.

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