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David Wigler

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Best four hole stretch in US golf
« on: October 28, 2003, 10:28:25 AM »
Playing St. Louis CC this past weekend got me to thinking about what the best four-hole stretch of golf is in the US.  I have three nominees:

2,3,4,5 at St. Louis CC
14,15,16,17 at Cypress Pointe
15,16,17,18 at Canterbury

Canterbury's has 2-4's, 1-3 and 1-5.  Both CPC and SL CC both have a very unusual back-to-back par 3's.  SL CC then goes 4, 5; while CPC goes 4, 4.  Are there any other stretches that deserve mention here?  In mind, these three hold everything; drama, challenge, intrigue, a sense of pride at survival, visually stunning perspectives, etc.
And I took full blame then, and retain such now.  My utter ignorance in not trumpeting a course I have never seen remains inexcusable.
Tom Huckaby 2/24/04

mike_malone

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2003, 10:33:16 AM »
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     #12-#13-#14-#15
     
 Rolling Green
AKA Mayday

Mike_Cirba

Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2003, 10:33:21 AM »
1,2,3,4 at Pine Valley, and one could probably just keep going.

For instance, 5,6,7,8 anyone?  ;)

Jeff Goldman

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2003, 10:34:14 AM »
6-9 at Pebble.  There is no substitute.

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Lou_Duran

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2003, 10:34:25 AM »
The last four holes at Dallas National.

The last six holes at The Rawls Course.

DTaylor18

Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2003, 10:34:39 AM »
I have not played any of those three courses.  But I would throw in Pebble Beach 6,7,8, & 9.   I would also add Merion 15,16,17,18.

David Wigler

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2003, 10:36:12 AM »
Admitted homer
     #12-#13-#14-#15
     
 Rolling Green

Mayday,

I was stuck on my home track.  Plum has some great three hole stretches.  Our best is 12-13-14.  15 is a very routine hole.  Once we restore 11, I think it would be worth mentioning but still not in the league of the three I opened with.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2003, 10:36:31 AM by David Wigler »
And I took full blame then, and retain such now.  My utter ignorance in not trumpeting a course I have never seen remains inexcusable.
Tom Huckaby 2/24/04

David Wigler

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2003, 10:37:37 AM »
I forgot about 6-9 at Pebble.  It must be in the short list.
And I took full blame then, and retain such now.  My utter ignorance in not trumpeting a course I have never seen remains inexcusable.
Tom Huckaby 2/24/04

higkgins

Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2003, 10:44:15 AM »
arguably 6-9 @ PB .... however, 15-18 @ Ocean Hammock (FLA) is worthy of mention for USA public courses

Dan Kelly

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2003, 10:45:35 AM »
16, 17, 18, 1 at Sand Hills.

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Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2003, 10:49:02 AM »
Never played them, but 1-4 at NGLA seem to be talked about ad nauseum on this site.

Tony_Chapman

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2003, 10:49:19 AM »
Dan Kelly you are a genious.  ;D That has to be on the list, because no one in there right mind considers "18" a round of golf at Sand Hills. Heck, after 18 you aren't even making the turn at that place.

I wonder why the four hole stretch at Pebble isn't 4,5,6,7 or 5,6,7,8 or 6,7,8,9 or 7,8,9,10. Anyone?

Steve Lapper

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2003, 10:59:23 AM »
I vote for 14-17 at Cypress Point. but here are a few more for the fans consideration:

1-4 Oakmont
1-4 Prairie Dunes
15-18 Friars Head
7-10 Friars Head
15-18 Shinnecock
13-16 Pine Valley
10-14 Augusta National
11-15   "           "
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Bob_Huntley

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2003, 11:00:01 AM »
I am all for including  the Cypress or Pebble holes but what about Spyglass Hill, Nos. 1 through 4? Go over there during the qualifying rounds of the State and the A.T.&T. and you can witness some very nervous shot-making.

Will E

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2003, 11:04:41 AM »
D,
talk about a case of Huck's cherries. Based upon your reactions from seeing SA and SLCC I should warn you that if you ever get to Long Island and see Piping, Creek, and NGLA you will never return to Detroit.
my favorite 4 hole stretches without much thought:
the last 4 at TPC and Crystal Downs, the last 5 at Shinnecock, 13-16 at PRC, 5-8 at the Dunes, 3-6 at Dornoch.
and in true homer form 13-16 at Barton, I'll save Paul a post and mention that the last four at Beverly should be on anyone's short list.

Adam_Jessie

Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2003, 11:07:19 AM »
I would have to put 1-4 at Pinehurse number 2 in that list for sure.

Jeff_Lewis

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2003, 11:08:40 AM »
10-13 at shinnecock.
11-14 at shinnecock.
12-15 at shinnecock.
13-16 at shinnecock.
14-17 at shinnecock.
15-18 at shinnecock.

Mike Hendren

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2003, 11:10:21 AM »
Honorable Mentions among the moderns:

The Honors nos. 9-12

TPC Sawgrass nos. 15-18

In-State Honorable Mention:

Holston Hills nos. 2-5
Two Corinthians walk into a bar ....

Scott Seward

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2003, 11:15:22 AM »
Spyglass 1-4

Wolf Run 13-16

Ben Cowan-Dewar

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2003, 11:17:05 AM »
5-8 at Crystal
6-9 at NGLA
7-10 at Pebble

texsport

Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2003, 11:24:18 AM »
Holes 13-16 The Quarry@Giants Ridge.

A short par4, short par5, long par 4, long par5

#13 323yd par4    Divided fairway and many options
#14 513yd. par 5  Uphill, hidden bunchbowl green
#15 454yd. par 4  Forced 200yd. plus carry on 2nd shot
#16 558yd. par 5  Risk/reward 2 quarry carries, zoned green

Other Picks

#'s 10-13 Augusta National
 #'s 7-10 Pebble Beach

Texsport
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Matt_Ward

Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2003, 11:44:30 AM »
For what's worth -- the "ultimate" four-hole stretch should have at least one par-5 and one par-3 and the two par-4's should be clearly different (length and configuration).

Clearly, the selection of 6-9 at PB works but the par-4's are both long and both follow the same general direction.

A better example might be 14-17 at PV or ...
Another -- 15-18 at Shinnecock

A lesser example might be the 3-6 at Bethpage Black.

Plainfield's 11-14 is also not a bad one but the 14th is a bit of a bear when played from the extreme back tees.

Another -- 15-18 at Desert Mountain's Geronimo Course although the 17th is a bit less in quality when compared to the other three.

I'm sure I can think of a few others.

Michael Goody

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2003, 11:48:21 AM »
haven't played as many courses as most on here, would concur that 15-18 at Merion are pretty awesome

how about 8,9,10,11 at Yale? 1,2,3,4 aren't too bad either.

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2003, 11:53:20 AM »
11 to 14 at Cypress, or 12 to 15; 7 to 10 or 6 to 9 at Pebble;2 to 5 or 3 to 6 at Olympic Lake are none to shabby; 6 to 9 at Pacific Dunes, 11 to 14 TOC or 14 to 17; 6 to 9 at turnberry; 7 to 10 Troon or 11 to 14; 14 to 17 at N Berwick for openers

Jeff Fortson

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Re:Best four hole stretch in US golf
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2003, 12:04:14 PM »
1-4 NGLA

4-7 NGLA

9-12 Shinnecock

15-18 Winged Foot (East)

6-9 The Creek

14-17 Bethpage (Black)

15-18 Olympic (Lake)



Matt Ward,

Why does the best four hole stretch have to include 1 par 5, 1 par 3, and 2 par 4's?  Par should have nothing to do with any stretch of great holes, IMHO.  If there were four straight unbelievable par 3's that were 110 yards long each, it would still rank as a great stretch of golf in my mind.


Jeff F.
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