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Pete_Pittock

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Re: Green Size/Green speed
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2019, 10:32:24 PM »

After watching today it seems that sloped small greens can still handle green speeds at 12 or above without anyone looking silly.
Green firmness seemed to have more of an effect.
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jeffwarne

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Re: Green Size/Green speed
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2019, 10:46:40 PM »
Quote from: Pete_Pittock on June 16, 2019, 10:32:24 PM

After watching today it seems that sloped small greens can still handle green speeds at 12 or above without anyone looking silly.
Green firmness seemed to have more of an effect.


I'm not sure those greens stimped 12
They were perfect and yielded super fast putts as well as super slow ones
but I'd guess more like 11-11.5
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: Green Size/Green speed
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2019, 10:59:31 PM »

Jeff,
You might be right, but the article I read said they were at 12 on Thursday.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Green Size/Green speed
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2019, 11:01:11 PM »
Quote from: Pete_Pittock on June 16, 2019, 10:59:31 PM

Jeff,
You might be right, but the article I read said they were at 12 on Thursday.


Repeat after me:  every number you hear in the golf business is a lie.
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Jon Wiggett

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Re: Green Size/Green speed
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2019, 01:18:55 AM »
Quote from: Tom_Doak on June 16, 2019, 11:01:11 PM
Quote from: Pete_Pittock on June 16, 2019, 10:59:31 PM

Jeff,
You might be right, but the article I read said they were at 12 on Thursday.


Repeat after me:  every number you hear in the golf business is a lie.



 ;D
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Erik J. Barzeski

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Re: Green Size/Green speed
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2019, 07:49:52 AM »
10.5-11 my putting instructor friend told me as he was there with some players. Though he left Saturday night.
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jeffwarne

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Re: Green Size/Green speed
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2019, 08:26:29 AM »
Quote from: Erik J. Barzeski on June 17, 2019, 07:49:52 AM
10.5-11 my putting instructor friend told me as he was there with some players. Though he left Saturday night.


Thank you Eric.
and putted at perfect, challenging speed from all directions-not just downhill.
I welcome the return of having to hit a putt solid-cuz you don't on greens running 14-which have EXPONENTIALLY less difference between an uphiller and a downhiller from a green sloped(not tiered :( ) to provide a stern challenge at 10.5
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Erik J. Barzeski

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Re: Green Size/Green speed
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2019, 08:44:20 AM »
Quote from: jeffwarne on June 17, 2019, 08:26:29 AM
I welcome the return of having to hit a putt solid-cuz you don't on greens running 14-which have EXPONENTIALLY less difference between an uphiller and a downhiller from a green sloped(not tiered :( ) to provide a stern challenge at 10.5
The faster the stimp the greater the relative difference in the force needed to hit the ball the proper distance.


Maybe that’s what you said but it feels like you said the opposite.
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Erik J. Barzeski @iacas
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jeffwarne

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Re: Green Size/Green speed
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2019, 09:21:38 AM »
Quote from: Erik J. Barzeski on June 17, 2019, 08:44:20 AM
Quote from: jeffwarne on June 17, 2019, 08:26:29 AM
I welcome the return of having to hit a putt solid-cuz you don't on greens running 14-which have EXPONENTIALLY less difference between an uphiller and a downhiller from a green sloped(not tiered :( ) to provide a stern challenge at 10.5
The faster the stimp the greater the relative difference in the force needed to hit the ball the proper distance.


Maybe that’s what you said but it feels like you said the opposite.


exactly
though I worded it clumsily

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