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Ran Morrissett

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  https://golfclubatlas.com/feature-interview/feature-interview-with-ed-oden/

Similar to when I posted the April 2006 Feature Interview with Chris Clouser, this month’s FI with Ed Oden has me wondering if Perry Maxwell is the least appreciated of the design titans. I say that having spent a considerable time on Ed's non-commercial website perrymaxwellarchive.com, which launched in March.

Ed has unearthed all kinds of interesting information on Maxwell and cleanly organized it via a timeline, which is freely accessed by one and all. Ed invites all interested parties to submit relevant information to help fill in what is already a rich portrait of Maxwell. Suffice to say, I am a big fan of that method – golf wins when knowledge is imparted, and golfers stand as the beneficiaries. Ed has done this all at personal expense and sacrifice, and such selfless behavior makes him a true friend to the sport.

Ed untangles many mysteries relating to Maxwell and provides clarity as to his design record. Unfortunately, Maxwell didn’t set pen to paper like some of the other Golden Architects. Personally, I think that lack of writing helps explains why my generation might not feel like they ‘know’ Maxwell’s design ethos as well as that of MacKenzie, Tillinghast, Ross, Macdonald, and Thomas. Happily, Ed has found several corker quotations (see Q & A #4 and the quote section in his website) that makes you yearn for many, many more.

Speaking of MacKenzie, all he ever did was praise Maxwell. Take this quote for example:  ‘I feel that I cannot leave America without expressing my admiration for the excellence of your work and the extremely low cost compared with the results obtained.  As I stated to you verbally, the work is so good that you may not get the credit you deserve. Few if any golfers will realize that Melrose has been constructed by the hand of man and not by nature.  This is the greatest tribute that can be paid to the work of a Golf Course Architect.’?! To this day, architects like Coore and Doak extoll the virtues of Maxwell’s work. When seemingly every single peer admires your work, that signifies something.

How wonderful it would be if several Maxwell courses like Twin Hills, University of Michigan and Dornich Hills went down the Old Town path and reinstated as many Maxwell features as possible (in my mind, Old Town which opened in 1939 draws to a close the Golden Age). Perhaps then the man might start to receive just credit. Maxwell’s contributions at ANGC go unmentioned each April – Ed even proved that Maxwell’s involvement there started a couple of years earlier than previously thought. GolfClubAtlas has done 200+ Feature Interviews but few can compete with the sheer volume of facts that Ed presents in a crisp fashion here.

The launch of his website represents the start of the journey. As Ed states, ‘If there is one thing I’ve learned over the last eight years, it’s that you never know the whole story and there is always something new to discover.  The beauty of a website is its flexibility to evolve as more and more information becomes available, whereas a book can become outdated very quickly. The Perry Maxwell Archive is intended to be a collaborative effort.  My hope is that the Perry Maxwell Archive will constantly evolve and grow as interested individuals and clubs contribute content that adds to our collective understanding of Maxwell.’

I hope we can all support Ed and perrymaxwellarchive.com. One thing is for sure: Maxwell’s economical use of bunkering and convoluted, intermediate size greens would be a breath of fresh air in today’s design world. Since Maxwell wasn’t a self-promoter and in the absence of his own words to tell his story, Maxwell needs a champion in addition to Chris’s The Midwest Associate. Now in Ed’s website, he has one.

Best,
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PCCraig

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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2019, 09:10:11 PM »
Super cool. Congrats on the website launch Ed! 
H.P.S.

Matt MacIver

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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2019, 06:38:07 AM »
Congrats Ed a lot of hard work I’m sure.  Looking forward to digging in and looking around. 

Craig Van Egmond

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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2019, 10:52:55 AM »

Congrats Ed!   I can't wait to look at everything.
A good year for Perry Maxwell..

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https://www.perrymaxwellsociety.com/


Shelly Jones

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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2019, 01:32:44 PM »

Fascinating. A really important contribution.




Thomas Dai

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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2019, 03:09:23 PM »
Terrific. Seems like a real labour of love and a treasure trove for others to delve into and learn.
If you'd shown me the list of courses specified in the interview my reaction would have been one word ..... oil! So it was gratifying to read of Maxwells oil industry links.
Oily folks do like their golf and they've usually got cash, so, if I may be so bold, a bit of advice for future golf development work, check out oil and gas exploration (rather than existing production) areas as there's a pretty good chance they'll be places courses will be wanted in years to come.
atb
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Ed Oden

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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2019, 12:15:56 AM »
First of all, I can't even begin to thank Ran for his kind words (too kind I'm afraid) and, more importantly, for giving me an opportunity to share The Perry Maxwell Archive with the broader audience of Golf Club Atlas members and lurkers.  I want to be clear that this is a collaborative effort and I should not be credited for information provided by so many others along the way.  With any luck, my contributions will become less and less important as the collaboration expands.  In the meantime, I hope that readers will be intrigued enough to check out https://www.perrymaxwellarchive.com/ and dig around.  Criticism and suggestions are not only welcome, but encouraged.


Thanks Craig, Matt, Shelly and Thomas!  I appreciate the comments and look forward to hearing more from you down the road.


All the best,


Ed

JC Urbina

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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2019, 10:48:20 AM »
Ran,


This interview is one of the reasons I check in to review the Golf Cub Atlas website.  The info that Ed has shared is so enjoyable to read.


Thanks Again, keep up the good work!




Ed,


That is one helluva an effort, for someone like myself who enjoys the work of Maxwell, both Perry and Press, I find the read enjoyable.  Your willingness to share credit with your work is refreshing.


Outstanding!!

Joe Bausch

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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2019, 07:11:09 PM »
I knew this interview would be outstanding.  Keep up the excellent work, Ed.
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
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Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Bill Brightly

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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2019, 08:18:14 PM »
Great work, Ed! I knew that Maxwell did work at Saucon Valley Old but I thought it was limited to changing Holes 11 and 12. (He created a great drop par 3 on 11, then the really solid dogleg par 4 12th.) I did not realize that he did so much more at the course.

Tim Liddy

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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2019, 09:27:46 AM »
Very good work, just outstanding. I can imagine Maxwell, such a naturalist, debating with Clifford Roberts to remove the artificial hillocks around the greens. Thanks for sharing this important work with us.
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MCirba

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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2019, 04:37:51 PM »
Ed Oden,

This is terrific.   Thank you so much for your efforts to spread the Maxwell Message and to Ran for providing a forum where we can all collectively learn and collaborate.
"Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent" - Calvin Coolidge

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Peter Pallotta

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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2019, 05:58:23 PM »
With little fanfare and even less self promotion, the 'excellence of the work' and the 'results obtained' shine through.
Yes, Ed is in fact the Perry Maxwell of gca historians & bloggers!
Well done all around, thank you.


Ed Oden

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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2019, 09:45:52 AM »
Ed,


That is one helluva an effort, for someone like myself who enjoys the work of Maxwell, both Perry and Press, I find the read enjoyable.  Your willingness to share credit with your work is refreshing.


Outstanding!!


Jim, I appreciate your thoughtful comments.  Of course, one of the people who should share credit is you since you were kind enough to sent me your files on Press.  Many thanks and I'm embarrassed that I somehow failed to recognize that contribution in the original website launch.  Please forgive the oversight, which has been sheepishly corrected.

All the best,

Ed 

Ed Oden

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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2019, 09:59:04 AM »
I knew this interview would be outstanding.  Keep up the excellent work, Ed.




Joe, thanks for your comments and, more importantly, your contributions to the Perry Maxwell Archive.  I look forward to our continued collaboration.  By the way, did you notice the interesting tidbit about Irem Country Club near Wilkes-Barre listed under the "Mysteries" tab of the website?  That's something I found just a few months ago.  I have a close friend whose family were long time members there and I plan on digging deeper into that next time I visit.

All the best,

Ed

Ed Oden

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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2019, 10:07:49 AM »
Great work, Ed! I knew that Maxwell did work at Saucon Valley Old but I thought it was limited to changing Holes 11 and 12. (He created a great drop par 3 on 11, then the really solid dogleg par 4 12th.) I did not realize that he did so much more at the course.


Thanks Bill.  Maxwell certainly did a significant amount of work at Saucon.  It was consistently mentioned as one of his major renovation jobs.  I expect he touched much more than the greens usually mentioned and hope additional details eventually emerge. 

Best wishes,

Ed

Ed Oden

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Re: Feature Interview with Ed Oden on Perry Maxwell is now posted
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2019, 10:21:49 AM »
Very good work, just outstanding. I can imagine Maxwell, such a naturalist, debating with Clifford Roberts to remove the artificial hillocks around the greens. Thanks for sharing this important work with us.


Thanks Tim!  Agreed, I'd love to have been a fly on the wall for the ANGC discussions.  I don't think Maxwell's intent was to go in an entirely different direction than MacKenzie.  For example, his bunker work still had the rough around the edges appearance generally consistent with MacKenzie's original bunker style.  For evidence, take a look at the photos of the bunkers on Maxwell's new 10th green on the website.  The flash faced bunkers many believe are Maxwell's weren't what he installed.

All the best,

Ed

Ed Oden

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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2019, 10:24:41 AM »
Ed Oden,

This is terrific.   Thank you so much for your efforts to spread the Maxwell Message and to Ran for providing a forum where we can all collectively learn and collaborate.


Thanks Mike, much appreciated!  Let me know if you come across anything relating to Maxwell in the course of your research and whether there is anything you would like me to be on the lookout for from my end.

Best,

Ed

Ed Oden

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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2019, 10:35:49 AM »
With little fanfare and even less self promotion, the 'excellence of the work' and the 'results obtained' shine through.
Yes, Ed is in fact the Perry Maxwell of gca historians & bloggers!
Well done all around, thank you.


Peter, thanks as always for your thoughtful words.  You know of my father.  We shared the common bond of golf.  He knew nothing about golf course architecture but was always interested in hearing about my Maxwell research.  While I will always regret that I didn't reach this point before he passed, I trust he is enjoying it now from above...likely taking his red felt tip pen to it with scholarly edits!

All the best,

Ed
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Joe Bausch

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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2019, 11:19:33 AM »
I knew this interview would be outstanding.  Keep up the excellent work, Ed.




Joe, thanks for your comments and, more importantly, your contributions to the Perry Maxwell Archive.  I look forward to our continued collaboration.  By the way, did you notice the interesting tidbit about Irem Country Club near Wilkes-Barre listed under the "Mysteries" tab of the website?  That's something I found just a few months ago.  I have a close friend whose family were long time members there and I plan on digging deeper into that next time I visit.

All the best,

Ed


New news to me, Ed.  Very interesting.
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Bart Bradley

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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2019, 08:44:57 AM »
Ed


Beautiful, my friend.


The world of golf is better for your contribution. 


Bart

JWL

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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2019, 07:54:21 PM »
Ed,
Thanks for the great work on Maxwell.   I lived in Ann Arbor for 10 years and actually coached at Michigan, so I found that information especially interesting.   Well done!

Jason Topp

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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2019, 02:32:29 PM »
Congratulations Ed!  I look forward to spending some quality time on your website.

mark chalfant

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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2019, 09:34:44 PM »

Dear Ed,
Thank you for your superb archive illuminating the mastery of  Perry Maxwell.
It is an impressive effort with great depth of material and it is beautifully presented.


I have been fortunate to play and study much of his inspiring work. I now realize I need to make a pilgrimage to Twin Hills, Hillcrest, and Old Town to learn more about his talent for great routing.
Thanks so much for your great dedication and effort. Kudos also to Ran and Chris Clouser
Mark

Bret Lawrence

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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2019, 08:20:24 AM »
Ed,


Great work on the Perry Maxwell Archive.  I look forward to exploring this site and learning more about Maxwell and his work.  I like the approach you have taken by filtering the facts from the mysteries.


Thank you for your time and effort putting all of this wonderful information together.  Thanks to Ran for another great interview.  Best of luck with the new site.


Bret


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