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Thomas Dai

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Australian golf and the heatwave
« on: January 25, 2019, 05:40:28 PM »
Been hearing quite a bit about an excessive heatwave in Aussie and wondering how courses have been effected? Is it an issue all over or more a regional issue?
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Scott Warren

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2019, 06:20:18 PM »
Nothing to be alarmed about, it’s just summer.

James Bennett

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2019, 02:37:59 AM »
I've seen two courses in Adelaide - both have managed the heat well. No signs of stress in the greens/surrounds/rough.  The fairways are santa ana at these two courses, so the hot weather isn't an issue.

Royal Adelaide has had some heat stress on a few of the pines, which have shed a limb (they are trees away from play) - the trees might be removed.  No significant loss if they go.
I think 4 people played on Thursday - why they played is a mystery. 45 degrees plus is just lunacy.

James B
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Mike_Clayton

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2019, 03:09:46 AM »
My club, Metropolitan closed the course when it got to 40 degrees (105 about) on Friday.
The weather has no noticeable impact on the course aside from a little browning of the fairways.

Jeff Schley

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2019, 04:06:54 AM »
Be there next week so hot weather and fast courses sounds good to me.
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Mark Chaplin

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2019, 12:32:38 PM »
Scottsdale averages 100-105 daily in the summer, no shutting courses or they could be shut for weeks on end. Admittedly it’s dry heat so bearable.
Cave Nil Vino

Thomas Dai

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2019, 01:52:39 PM »
Thanks folks.
What about water allocations in relation to golf courses and life generally during such periods?
Atb

James Bennett

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2019, 06:18:19 PM »
Courses generally provide/source their own - use of town water is limited to a few courses with shortfalls, and only for greens for survival.  Horrenduosly expensive in Australia (can be $2 to $3 per kilolitre).
Water is from a mix of on-course dams, water harvesting and bores.Bore levels are closely monitored to prevent excessive draw down.Some clubs take run-off from neighbouring suburbs.Royal Adelaide, Glenelg and Grange in Adelaide all take road surface run-off in winter, pass it through wetlands and pump it into the aquifer.  Then retrieve the water in the summer.Royal Adelaide puts in 200 GL a year, and extracts that amount in summer.  Salt levels have halved to about 500 parts since the aquifer pumping started.
Royal Melbourne has recently added a couple of water storage facilities following the droughts of a decade ago when ground water salinities rose quickly.
One course is Sydney taps into a major sewer, treats that water on-site and uses that on the course.Treated sewage effluent is used at several courses (Horsham,in the middle of the western desert between Melbourne and Adelaide does this).
It would be rare to see roughs irrigated in Australia, and drought-tolerant grasses are the norm on fairways.
Note that heatwaves are quite different to droughts - Adelaide can easily have several months without rain, Melbourne can be weeks without rain.  A dry spring really complicates a dry summer, irrespective of how severe the temperature gets.
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Terry Lavin

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2019, 06:35:29 PM »
Gotta get down under there. And soon, as the high temperature projected in three days here in Chicago is -15 Fahrenheit.
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2019, 06:25:56 AM »
Courses generally provide/source their own - use of town water is limited to a few courses with shortfalls, and only for greens for survival.  Horrenduosly expensive in Australia (can be $2 to $3 per kilolitre).
Water is from a mix of on-course dams, water harvesting and bores.Bore levels are closely monitored to prevent excessive draw down.Some clubs take run-off from neighbouring suburbs.Royal Adelaide, Glenelg and Grange in Adelaide all take road surface run-off in winter, pass it through wetlands and pump it into the aquifer.  Then retrieve the water in the summer.Royal Adelaide puts in 200 GL a year, and extracts that amount in summer.  Salt levels have halved to about 500 parts since the aquifer pumping started.
Royal Melbourne has recently added a couple of water storage facilities following the droughts of a decade ago when ground water salinities rose quickly.
One course is Sydney taps into a major sewer, treats that water on-site and uses that on the course.Treated sewage effluent is used at several courses (Horsham,in the middle of the western desert between Melbourne and Adelaide does this).
It would be rare to see roughs irrigated in Australia, and drought-tolerant grasses are the norm on fairways.
Note that heatwaves are quite different to droughts - Adelaide can easily have several months without rain, Melbourne can be weeks without rain.  A dry spring really complicates a dry summer, irrespective of how severe the temperature gets.


Thanks for these insights James. I wonder to what extent other areas of the globe are, or perhaps will one day or ought to now, adopt such approaches. Necessity is the mother of invention and all that.
Atb


Kalen Braley

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2019, 11:05:25 AM »
Gotta get down under there. And soon, as the high temperature projected in three days here in Chicago is -15 Fahrenheit.


Holy hell, I thought you were just exaggerating, does this happen every winter?

Here in Utah we only go under 10 a couple times per winter, (far less often than just 20 years ago when it was common)..for the overnight low.

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2019, 06:58:40 PM »
@  Mark Chaplin


The humidity in the Phoenix/Scottsdale desert is rising in the summer. We play golf at 630-700am or earlier when the temperature is about 85+F but overnight irrigation doesn't burn off until about 10am.  It doesn't reach 100F until around 11am and can go as high as 115F in the afternoon but not many brave afternoon golf.


We get a lot of brown spots on the Bermuda fairways and sometimes the greens are stressed. When September arrives, the courses are in good condition with the Bermuda fairways, greens & rough overtaking then rye overseed. Then the courses are overseeded again and closed for about a month and then after reopening in October or November are cart paths only for a few weeks. Shaggy greens are the result of the overseed as they aren't cut as often.


Bottom line- visit from December/January through May or June unless one is a bargain hunter as summer rates are much lower.
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SL_Solow

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2019, 10:47:53 PM »
Kalen,  this is the coldest snap we have had in several years.  Indeed, winter was very mild and dry until at a couple of weeks ago.  Thank goodness we have had some substantial snow as it will act as a blanket and protect the turfgrass.  We had some real bitter winters in the early 80's.

Kalen Braley

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2019, 01:42:24 PM »
Tomorrow looks to be a doozy,  forecast shows in the -40s for Wind Chill.  Insane!!

https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/il/chicago/date/2019-01-30?cm_ven=localwx_modtomorrow

Mark Chaplin

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2019, 03:43:11 PM »
Steve I’m in Scottsdale over Masters weekend after a long weekend of cricket and golf matches in Philadelphia. The Scottsdale weather should be perfect for golf.
Cave Nil Vino

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2019, 03:56:13 PM »
Kalen,  this is the coldest snap we have had in several years.  Indeed, winter was very mild and dry until at a couple of weeks ago.  Thank goodness we have had some substantial snow as it will act as a blanket and protect the turfgrass.  We had some real bitter winters in the early 80's.


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Kalen Braley

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Re: Australian golf and the heatwave
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2020, 03:56:32 PM »
Didn't want to start a new thread about hot weather and golf..

But a quick shout out to our So Cal friends to stay cool this weekend.

Forecast this Sunday:
108 in Los Angeles
110 in Moorpark
115 in San Bernardino
105 in the OC area

May be a good time to head to Santa Barbara for the weekend, only supposed to hit 90.