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Steve_ Shaffer

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Changes forthcoming to Turnberry's Ailsa 9th & 11th holes
« on: November 16, 2018, 09:46:27 PM »

Donald Trump has ordered changes to his Turnberry golf course in Ayrshire – because it is too difficult.
The President has demanded holes be redesigned as good shots are being "punished".
 
It follows his visit to the resort in July when he played the new-look Ailsa links for the first time.
The course, which was redesigned as part of the resort's overhaul, was named in the world's top 10 earlier this year.Now Trump wants greens rebuilt to better reward players whose balls are flying off the putting surface.
Trump, who has spent £250million transforming the resort, is said to have instructed the changes after playing the course himself.
 
www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/donald-trump-orders-changes-turnberry-13587847
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Re: Changes forthcoming to Turnberry's Ailsa 9th & 11th holes
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2018, 10:44:57 PM »
Is that post a tweet from the chaotic White House?
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Changes forthcoming to Turnberry's Ailsa 9th & 11th holes
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2018, 11:42:02 PM »
Post corrected. Sorry for the lack of oversight.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Changes forthcoming to Turnberry's Ailsa 9th & 11th holes
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2018, 11:54:23 PM »
I saw the note that the course "was named in the top ten in the world earlier this year," and wondered where that was.


Sure enough - it was #10 on the most recent GOLF DIGEST list of international courses, which excluded all of the U.S. courses.  So, it's not really a world list.  Figures they would find a way to exaggerate.
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Paul Rudovsky

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Re: Changes forthcoming to Turnberry's Ailsa 9th & 11th holes
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2018, 12:25:39 PM »

Sure enough - it was #10 on the most recent GOLF DIGEST list of international courses, which excluded all of the U.S. courses.  So, it's not really a world list.  Figures they would find a way to exaggerate.

Tom--


I assume that you mean Golf Digest when you wrote "they" in your last sentence in this post.  If you are suggesting that it was the Trump Golf organization exaggerating, I would respectfully suggest that there are probably at least 10-20 other courses that have exaggerated by quoting Golf Digest in their advertising since GD published their original "world excluding USA" list.  Also, I just checked the Turnberry website and found a reference to Golf Magazine's last list but no reference to Golf Digest's lists.  Does Steve Shaffer represent Trump Golf?


GM's 2017 listing is probably heavily weighted by panelists who have played the pre-Ebert Ailsa (#16...up from #23 in 2015) and not played the post renovation course.  Top100's latest list (published Dec 7, 2017) has Ailsa at #14 (up from #19 two years earlier).  Finally, when GD later published a World 100 including USA courses it had Ailsa at #18 (up from #22 two years earlier)


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Tom_Doak

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Re: Changes forthcoming to Turnberry's Ailsa 9th & 11th holes
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2018, 11:36:21 PM »
Hi Paul:


I was calling out the Trump p.r. team, not GOLF DIGEST, for exaggerating.  They are all college graduates and their reading comprehension is not that low.  Saying a course is "rated in the top ten in the world" when it finished #10 on a list that excludes half the world is a classic stretch.  Of course that's what they get paid for, but it's still b.s.


I'm sure there are plenty of other courses who have used that loophole, too.  (Maybe even one of mine, but not that I have seen.)  And maybe GOLF DIGEST was trying to enable all the b.s. by poorly titling their ranking, I don't know.
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Rich Goodale

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Re: Changes forthcoming to Turnberry's Ailsa 9th & 11th holes
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2018, 03:02:58 AM »
Tom


The only fake news per the opening post was from the Daily Mail, which printed the top-10 in the world mis-statement without quotations.  I cannot find any quotation from Trump or his golf people making that mistake.



Rich


PS--at least one of the real GD top-10 in the world courses was mis-stating its world-wide position until a little birdie told them so....
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