[Jeff_Brauer]

Been thinking about this for a while. And have posted these before, but my two are architects telling me:


1. I allow 3-4 days for design of an 18 hole golf course.


2. (different architect) "Well, you're going to have a few bad holes, so I don't spend much time worrying about eliminating them, if it takes more than a day or two design time."


3. (Club Member) "Don't you think it should be just as easy to reach a par 5 in two from a fairway bunker as it is from the middle of the fairway?


Not sure where the non-designers responses might go here.  Thinking more of stupid statements rather than pictures of holes you don't like, unless really bad design that could have seemingly be corrected.


Discuss, and I will check in later.

[David McIntosh]

Only yesterday I heard Ewan Murray (I think) on Sky Sports say "that's just bad design" about the 10th at Riviera when Luke Donald tried to drive the green, ended up short right and had to chip out to the front of the green about 90° from the pin. 


To his credit, Rich Beem protested that he didn't agree and that he'd argue the point with Murray all night!

[Ronald Montesano]

I think you mean "confounding." "Dumbfounded" is an adjective, but means something else.


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[Mike_Young]

"When you choose an ASGCA architect, you can be certain you are hiring the best the industry has to offer."   ASGCA website

Just could not resist

[John Connolly]

"Trees make a course prettier."

[mike_beene]

Don't pull that Royal Melbourne is great crap on me. I have played it. It's a pasture and you have to cross roads.

[Matt MacIver]

If you're on the green you should be able to one-putt.

[BHoover]

That is unfair.


You should not be permitted to mark your ball on the green.

[BCrosby]

Not sure they are "dumbfounding", because you hear them often:


1. X is unfair.


2. If on the green, I should have a reasonable chance at two-putting. Lots of great greens don't give you a reasonable chance at two putts if you are on the wrong side of the hole. What greens do owe you, I think, is a reasonable chance at keeping your first putt from rolling off the green.


Bob   

[Bill_McBride]

Not sure they are "dumbfounding", because you hear them often:


1. X is unfair.


2. If on the green, I should have a reasonable chance at two-putting. Lots of great greens don't give you a reasonable chance at two putts if you are on the wrong side of the hole. What greens do owe you, I think, is a reasonable chance at keeping your first putt from rolling off the green.


Bob   

  Your last point reminds me of Tiger Woods putting off the 13th at Augusta into the creek.  At that time he was the best putter in the world!   So I don't think the GCA owes us much more than an opportunity to make fools of ourselves.

[Ira Fishman]

The grass is not green so it is not a good course.


Why would an architect make me chip away from the hole?

[BCrosby]

Bill -


Good point. I once putted off the 11th green at Crystal TWICE. Humiliated, I picked up and tried to disappear into the forest on the way to the 12th tee.


Though not about architecture per se, another one I heard while Green chair at my club:


"The fairway grass is not all the same shade of green." I heard that from several people actually. You can imagine what the same guys thought about the US Open set-up at Pinehurst No. 2 a couple of years ago.


Bob

[Matthew Essig]

"Why put a bunker in the middle of the fairway? Why punish a perfect drive?"


That left me dumbfounded.

[Joel_Stewart]

"When you choose an ASGCA architect, you can be certain you are hiring the best the industry has to offer."   ASGCA website

Just could not resist

+1. 


Also past presidents who prostitute their names as a past president.

[Matthew Petersen]

The guy who couldn't understand why anyone would ever play Rustic Canyon when Moorpark Country Club is right there.

[Paul Jones]

If we cut down the trees, the rough would be too thick and make the course harder...

[John Kavanaugh]

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[Jeff_Brauer]

"When you choose an ASGCA architect, you can be certain you are hiring the best the industry has to offer."   ASGCA website

Just could not resist

+1. 


Also past presidents who prostitute their names as a past president.

Been called a lot of things here in my 16 years.....this is the lowest.


Would be interested in knowing just what about using my ASGCA initials makes me a prostitute?  Or whatever thing I have done or said here that makes you think so lowly of me.  Thanks in advance.

[Steve Lang]

Joel Stewart,


I believe you owe Jeff B an apology or recant of that comment, it was really uncalled for, rather crass in my opinion. 


Aren't you proud of any professional accomplishments or titles you've attained?   

[Duncan Cheslett]

"I can't stand links courses. They never water the greens properly. You can hit a great wedge in and it just bounces off. Absolute rubbish!"

[RJ_Daley]

You beat me to it Duncan.  I hear many a men's club member complain that the Super didn't water the greens enough because they are not holding shots that land on the green. 

[Greg Chambers]

You beat me to it Duncan.  I hear many a men's club member complain that the Super didn't water the greens enough because they are not holding shots that land on the green.

I actually had a GM that once told me that.

[Scott Warren]

I was talking about the Bonnie Doon renovation today at my new club and saying how massively OCCM has improved the course.


Playing partner looks me dead in the eye with a straight face and says "what have they done? Planted lots of trees?".

[BCowan]

Joel Stewart,


I believe you owe Jeff B an apology or recant of that comment, it was really uncalled for, rather crass in my opinion. 

Steve, I agree

[John Kavanaugh]

Get over it people. This reminds me of when you make fun of a guy for talking too much about going to Harvard. In the end..the guy went to Harvard. The brag post is a GCA staple and it never hurts for someone to call us out on it. You're a member where, you're playing where, you rate for whom, you were the president of what? It's all in good ole fashioned grown up fun.

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