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Forrest Richardson

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Re:Dakota Dunes
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2003, 01:07:14 AM »
I have pictures of my daughter:

1. Being "considered" in the twinkle of the eyes of two young adults who met in 1977.

2. Being confirmed by an ultrasound.

3. Rolling over in another ultrasound.

4. First facing the world at 4:59pm on 3-7-95.

5. Sticking her tongue out at her grandfather.

6. Enjoying a cappacino in Venice.

7. Riding her first bike.

6. Starring in a youth theatre production.

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Anytime is a good time to take pictures and share them. When you love something and are involved, this is what one does.
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Jeff_Mingay

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Re:Dakota Dunes
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2003, 08:14:16 AM »
Tom Doak:

This isn't the land Mr. Keiser has seen in Saskstchewan. Imagine that: there are many more parcels in the Canadian praries quite similar, and perhaps even more conducive to world-class golf!

As you've questioned though, are there enough people in Saskatchewan to support golf developments like Dakota Dunes, and others? I don't know for sure, but I guess, probably not. The feasability of the land Mr. Keiser's looked at is still very much in question. I know that, for sure.
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Tom_Doak

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Re:Dakota Dunes
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2003, 08:23:03 AM »
Jeff,

Thanks for the info.

Brad,

Yes, I think there are enough people close to Bandon to make Mr. Keiser's place work.  But he had a couple of things going for him that Saskatoon doesn't:

a)  He could afford to build a resort to go with his courses to make it a true destination;
b)  There's a lot more drive-by business on Route 101 than in Saskatoon;
c)  Portland and Seattle are within driving distance;
d)  The golf season is twice as long in Oregon; and
e)  Mike could afford it if the golf course didn't pay off his investment anytime soon.

Luckily, he didn't need to fall back on (e).  I hope the developers of Dakota Dunes don't either.

P.S.  I almost missed this thread entirely because I assumed it related to the "other" Dakota Dunes, a Palmer design in South Dakota.  They should have found an original name.

Jonathan Cummings

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Re:Dakota Dunes
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2003, 08:37:13 AM »
Try calling Bandon for a July/Aug teetime for a group of 4 or 8.  I've arranged 4 trips there so far and it is becoming increasingly hard to get times.  It may be remote but people are getting there.  JC

Matt_Ward

Re:Dakota Dunes
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2003, 01:27:14 PM »
Forrest:

I did not make any comments about a remote course like The Hideout until I actually visited it -- yes, the pictures look great but how about holding off defintive "early" comments until a few people have played a course. How does waiting hurt? Why the rush to leap in with peripheral info sources?

When people chime in tooooooo early you get the inital "spin" based on secondary info. And, sometimes that spin is dead wrong and the course is then labeled as being so and so when it may not actually be that.

Look -- people can say what they want from pictures -- the real understanding takes place when you play the holes and see firsthand what's there and what's not. Pictures convey the body -- they don't illustrate the soul -- being there does IMHO.

Forrest Richardson

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Re:Dakota Dunes
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2003, 04:55:45 PM »
Matt,

I do not agree with you 100%. For example, I enjoy hearing comments on many old, historic photos of golf courses, even though the comments come from people who never had the opportunity to be there at the time the photos were taken. I also love discussion about courses before they open — before many people play them — and before they are "established". I do agree that there is a difference between comments after one visits a course and before. Obvious enough.

I would have loved your comments about The Hideout BEFORE you visited as I would guess you would not have focused as much energy on the conditions of this very new facility. I certainly agree, however, that your comments after physically being there were more meaningful to me. Yes to this.
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George Pazin

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Re:Dakota Dunes
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2003, 05:52:10 PM »
Just wondering how one must remain mum on photos, yet others can glean wonders from yardage, CR & slope.... :)
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Daryl "Turboe" Boe

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Re:Dakota Dunes
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2003, 09:53:26 PM »
I took a quick look through all the posts and I didnt see anyone mention it, but does anyone know why it is called Dakota Dunes?  

Is that the name of the dune formation or something.  I just wondered because this name was already taken back in the 90's by Dakota Dunes in South Dakota home of the Nationwide Tour event out there.  It is a Palmer design from sometime in the 90's I think

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Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Dakota Dunes
« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2003, 10:09:02 PM »
Daryl,

Go back and check my original post.  I mention the Whitecap Dakota Nation as being one of the local tribes involved with this.  I think it resides on their land.

Tyler Kearns

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Re:Dakota Dunes
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2003, 12:51:42 AM »
This looks like a very positive step forward for prairie golf in Canada, although many excellent clubs exist, they are generally on parkland terrain, and do not exude the essence of the prairies.

Tom,
      I think that Saskatoon has the ability to support another golf course, even though it's 26km from the city. For a small city, roughly 200,000 people it has a number of good tracks that are well frequented; 36 holes at Saskatoon G. & C.C., 36 holes at The Willows, and a personal favorite of mine, the 27-hole Moon Lake G.C. Of these, Moon Lake is the only that attempts to really embrace it's prairie setting. The best part, the green fees max out on weekends in the $40 CDN range.    

Tyler Kearns

Norbert P

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Re:Dakota Dunes
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2003, 03:18:33 AM »
  Looks terrific.  I'd pay and play that course eagerly.  Can't wait to see more pictures, routing and news.  Time to put another pin on my map of dreams.  

  Hey Dick,  Saskatoon looks about half way between Green Bay and Portland.  Whuddya say?  

 A limerick...

 I once knew a girl from Regina
 Whose legs went up to her ... ooops...  I better tell you next Spring.
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Ron Erikson

Re:Dakota Dunes
« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2003, 05:34:38 PM »
The golf course was named Dakota Dunes because of two primary factors.   The first being that it is located on the the Whitecap Dakota First Nation.  
Whitecap was the legendary Chief of the tribe and the tribe was of Dakota/Sioux origin.      The dunes reference is because the course is located
within a geological sand-dune formation on the heights of the eastern banks of the South Saskatchewan River Valley Basin.  It is a work of art.  :)

Ron Erikson

Re:Dakota Dunes
« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2003, 11:54:04 PM »
I have played this course and will offer that it is truly a jewel in heart of the Canadian Prairies.    The course is layed out on 233 acres of natural sand dunes (a rarity in the prairies) and Cooke Carlton International (Graham Cooke & Wayne Carlton)  are the designing architects.  They have left the site as natural as possible and have complimented what is there.   In doing so they have assisted in putting an unforgettable golf course into life.   Players of all levels will want to play one again.   This is CCI's first complete project in Saskatchewan and it will be an unconditional success to their firm's future.   They have incorporated excellent use of directional layout to the prevailing winds and have created a masterpiece 18 hole layout.  Bring your clubs.   Its one milk run you gotta make.  

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