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Darren_Kilfara

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Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2003, 04:13:32 PM »
Darren,

So you caught my shameless attempt to allow a little chest thumping, only loosely tying it to golf architectecture.  I think their is room for a little chest thumping here.

;)

Paul Richards

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Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2003, 04:29:41 PM »
Jeff:

Thanks for the thread and for the kind words!

I have been a member at two clubs, and have an ace at each:

September 16, 1992    Joliet CC   140 yards, 8-iron
July 17, 1998         Beverly CC  242 yards, 3-wood


plus the one the other day:

Sept. 18, 2003    Chicago GC  204 yards, 21-degree T-Zoid
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Doug Siebert

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Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2003, 05:32:48 PM »
My first was at Carnoustie #16 in 1991, playing about 235 that day, with a 25 mph left to right cross wind.  The ground was bone dry but I was still surprised when my caddie handed me a 5 iron, I asked for my 4 instead.  I caught it pretty thin and pushed it, but since I was aiming left and playing it to ride the wind the combo miss was perfect and it lined down towards the green at about 20-25 feet elevation.  Thing was, with the tees in the back left of the teebox and the pin left and towards the front I couldn't see the bottom of the pin after I swung.  I went down the hill expecting to find my ball short, when I didn't see it I looked in the only place I figured it could be, and there it was.  Somehow I never felt that ace was fully "legitimate" since it just a lucky accident that I pushed it and thinned it in the proper measure to go in, with a good dose of lucky bounces likely involved since it probably only carried 200 or so and rolled the rest of the way.

Luckily I rectified that in 2001 with my second ace on the signature double island green 13th at my home course, a 199 yarder playing 185 that day.  There was the merest zephyr of a wind from left to right that day, so I decided I should aim my 7 iron exactly 6 feet left of the hole and hit it pure and exactly on that line.  It landed 18 inches pin high and right, and spun left like it had eyes and dropped right into the cup!  I was even fortunate that the tee was playing up a bit that day, because normally from the back of the tee where the tips usually are you can't see the bottom of the flag.  The tee is even elevated above the green somewhat which afforded a perfect view of the whole thing.  While an ace on "#13 Finkbine" doesn't sound as neat as "#16 Carnoustie", I know which one was the better and more deserving golf shot!

One note, when I returned to Carnoustie in 2001 (just a few weeks after my second ace) and played the 16th again, the tees were up and the pin was up, I was guessing it played perhaps 220.  It had been raining pretty good all day, and was still raining a bit when I reached that hole.  I'd been thinking about what I'd do when I came there the entire trip, and figured I'd probably choke and end up with a double bogey.  Even though I knew the shot was a 3 iron, I took my 4 because that's what I used before so it just seemed "right" (same exact club, not just same numbered club)  I hit it perfect, dead on line, and for just a moment, thought I might have a repeat performance.  But the ball landed just short of the green and spot of splattered right about 4 feet, just a foot off the green.  I ended up putting it in from about 35 feet, giving me a lifetime average of 1.5 on Carnoustie's 16th.  I guess I should expect a par next time, and its all downhill from there!

But I can't help thinking that if I'd used the 3, I might just have done it again...
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A.G._Crockett

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Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2003, 09:29:37 PM »
2 aces, kind of;

First, a four iron at Bradshaw Farms (CCFAD here in north Atlanta area).  Before the swing I said to my partner, I swear to you, "This feels perfect!"  Two hops and in...

Really happy to have had that one, because the second came on a par three after hooking my tee shot into a hazard.  I re-teed and made an 8 iron for a one, net three!  Without the previous legit hole in one, I'd be really worried that my only "ace" ever would have been for a par!
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Brock Peyer

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Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2003, 09:43:46 PM »
First was at Porters Neck in Wilmington, NC, 4th hole with an 8 iron from 165, never left the flag, I didn't see it go in, becuase of the flagstick.  I had double bogeyed one and ended up making some putts and shot a few under on the nine.  

Second was 11 months later at the Landfall Cub on the Nicklaus course, made birdie on one, aced two and then jacked it OB on three.  6 iron, 188 yds.  Even after three...I was hot under the collar.  At the turn my buddy in my cart ran over a squirrel, mamed it  but didn't kill it and he wouldn't put it out of it's misery so I had to, with my six iron.  I had a birdie, an eagle, and a squirrel, sorry PETA, I couldn't stand to see it suffer.

I also witnessed 3 in the span of about 3 weeks in between, I was getting sick and tired of it of seeing them though.  

Mike_Cirba

Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2003, 10:10:47 PM »
I'm pleased to report that all three of my holes in one occurred on world famous courses by famous designers.

The first, at Scranton Municipal Golf Course (James Harrison & Ferdinand Garbin 1958) occurred on the world famous 12th hole of about 175 yards with a 5-iron into a quartering wind.

The second, equally impressive, was a full pitching wedge to the 6th at Twining Valley GC (Jock Melville 1931) that disappeared into the cup on the first bounce.

Finally, I'm not sure I can count the last one, because I was playing alone after work one day, but at least I know that I aced the equally renowned 125 yard par three 4th at Horsham Valley GC (Jock Melville/Doug Melville 1964) with a nine iron that somehow found the hole on the blind uphill hole.  I looked around feverishly for witnesses to no avail.

I must say, that Jock Melville was a great architect who knew how to design holes where only the best golfers could succeed!  It's a damn shame he only designed these two courses!  ;)  ;D
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2003, 10:30:50 PM »
My first was on a Friday the 13th on the 4th at Blue Heron Pines West(Kay) in NJ. It was a 65 degree day in January and my friend had to beg me leave my office.My 6 iron landed in front of the green and rolled onto the green and disappeared.  My second was on the 12th at Commonwealth National(Seay/Palmer) in Horsham, PA. My 6 iron landed on the green, bounced up and hit the flagstick and dropped in.
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TEPaul

Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2003, 08:06:14 AM »
acer2x:

And hence your Golfclubatlas.com name, huh?

Patrick_Mucci

Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2003, 08:36:13 AM »
TEPaul,

Should I change my name to acer18x ?  ;D

THuckaby2

Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2003, 10:03:24 AM »
Screw you all.  I hate everyone posting on this thread except Bob Farrell, who is now my idol and hero, and maybe Darren, because he's at least sympathetic to the aceless.

Bob, you have 18 years on me.  I've been playing for 30 years and have yet to experience this thrill.  I've witnessed plenty - I think 10 or so - but never struck by me.  Oh, I suppose I have had one very very soft ace - hitting 50 shots into a blind uphill par3 at Stanford one afternoon (#14), I did find one in the hole when I went to retrieve them all.. but jeez if that counts than I'm Ben Hogan.  Oh well.

Does an eagle at a GCA outing on likely the most famous hole at Black Mesa in NM (#16), rolling in a 20 footer after reaching this monstrous uphill par 5 in two, the dagger hitting the jugulars of Messrs. Nuzzo and Cummings, to close out a match 3&2, trumping their birdie... does that count?  

Nah, of course not.  But if we are bragging...  ;)

TH

Doug Wright

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Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2003, 10:25:44 AM »

Does an eagle at a GCA outing on likely the most famous hole at Black Mesa in NM (#16), rolling in a 20 footer after reaching this monstrous uphill par 5 in two, the dagger hitting the jugulars of Messrs. Nuzzo and Cummings, to close out a match 3&2, trumping their birdie... does that count?


Oh boy, here we go--The Three Shots Heard Round the World!  ;D ;D :D

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THuckaby2

Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2003, 10:32:06 AM »
Well Doug, as you saw yesterday, the Bad Tom appears so often that when the Good Tom makes his rare appearance, it's just hard for me NOT to say anything...

I am savoring my 7 total strokes in two playings of that hole, in any case.  I can't remember, didn't Matt Ward call that a brutally hard hole?  He must really be a weakstick.   ;)

TH

ps - glad to see you alive and posting.  I am barely there, on both accounts.  10 hours of sleep in three days... I feel very, very old.
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Doug Wright

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Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2003, 10:41:22 AM »
Yes back to the salt mines TH. And please do focus on the Saturday rounds--I'm trying like hell myself to forget most of the shots I hit in your fine company yesterday...
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Patrick_Mucci

Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2003, 10:45:00 AM »
Tom Huckaby,

I attribute my 18 holes in one to my college education, courses in spacial orientation, the relationships between wind direction, speed, relative humidity and barometric pressures, interrelated with trajectories and ball flight patterns, and the most important course of all, "making luck work for you".
Didn't they teach you that at Univ of Santa Clara ?   ;D

Did I tell you about my double eagles ?   ;D

Perhaps it's time to re-enroll for some refresher courses, although the "luck" course may have run out for you.   ;D

Robert Emmons

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Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2003, 10:55:52 AM »
A great day!

May 2nd 1997...
The links at Spanish Bay...16th hole

THuckaby2

Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2003, 10:57:19 AM »
DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN!

I just have to laugh and say well done, Patrick.  If superior education promised this type of ace and double-eagle yield, then dammit maybe I should have gone to Stanford.

BTW, I'm brutalized enough.  If you start listing double eagles I just might have to start recalling football scores from the weekend.   ;)

Doug:  ok, great by me.  Maybe you and I bring out the worse in each other?  Interesting... must be we're having too much fun to concentrate on golf all that much.  Either that or it's McBride's fault, somehow.   ;)

TH

Mike Benham

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Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2003, 11:04:16 AM »
Didn't they teach you that at Univ of Santa Clara ?   ;D

Patrick -

Your facts, or is it your opinion ;) , are wrong in this case ... it is Santa Clara University ... SCU ...

USC is that place down south that many Notre Dame followers love so much ...

Mike
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ForkaB

Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2003, 11:18:18 AM »
My first one, #12 at Spyglass, ideal scenario--playing with two guys I never met and whose wives wouldn''t let let me take them to a bar for a drink, two 4-balls of Japanese on the tee who have immortalised my perfect swing in Osaka.  As for the other 5, they blur into memory after a while.

PS--who let Huckaby on this thread?

Patrick_Mucci

Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2003, 11:21:52 AM »
Mike Benham,

Right you are.

Tom Huckaby,

I've always prefered to relish participant sports rather than spectator sports, hence my holes in one, or is it hole in ones, will live with me forever, whereby a weekend football score fades by the next weekend or end of the season.

THuckaby2

Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2003, 11:27:44 AM »
Rich:

Since when are invitations needed?  Sure didn't stop me in your fictitious private conversation at Shinnecock... ;)

And Patrick, that is a very sane, healthy attitude.  I'll make sure and remind you of it if a certain mid-October result doesn't come out the way I expect.  ;)

TH

Mike Benham

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Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #45 on: September 22, 2003, 11:50:41 AM »
3rd Hole, Ruby Hill Golf Club, Pleasanton, CA - Summer 1995 ... (note:  architectural significance is that this was Jack's first Northern California course)

Playing about 190 for the day, slightly downhill, slightly downwind with glaring sunshine ...

Playing with my boss on his course, smooth 5-iron right at the pin.  With the glaring sunshine, we could not see the ball land or where it ended up.  I invoke the "right-at-it" theory that simple states that a shot "right-at-the-hole" is either a club too short or to long but never "be-the-one".

In this case, it was the one ...

Post-round drinks:  No one was in the bar after the round so I ended up buying my boss a bottle of champagne and my wife, a dozen roses .... (I hadn't told her I was playing golf that day, so, feeling guilty, I bought her roses and told her the good news ;) ..)
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Dan Kelly

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Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #46 on: September 22, 2003, 11:53:24 AM »
Sorry to do this to you, Tom IV (and aceless others), but ...

My first hole-in-one was a huge surprise, because I was playing so poorly that day. I was 8-over through 6 -- having pull-hooked my tee shot on the opener (nerves!), and having pull-hooked another driver into the gully on 3 (lost ball!), and having push-sliced my second on 6 ... right into the Pacific. The wind was blowing hard off the ocean when I got to 7. Little dinky downhill. Wedge, most days. What is it -- a hundred and seven yards? I pulled out a 6-iron, put it back in my stance, and hit a crisp little knockdown-fade that landed a few feet onto the green and rolled and rolled, curling-right all the way to the back-right hole. Must have fallen in on its last rotation. Pebble Beach No. 7 -- a great place for a man's first ace.

My second was kind of a fluke. Well, I suppose all holes-in-one are a little fluky -- but this one was flukier than most. I mean, really, who could imagine that a high, drawn 3-iron to the Redan (yes, THE Redan, at North Berwick), when it hits the flag, would drop straight down into the hole? And then, having dropped straight into the hole, that it would bounce out of the hole, up the slope, with just the right spin to take it back down into the hole! You could've knocked me down with a feather.

No. 3 is my favorite: Rick Shefchik and I were at Sand Hills, in September of '96, and finishing up our last round (of five, over two days) before hitting the road for the long drive home. We came to the magnificent 17th. (Bury my heart by the 17th tee!) I hadn't hit that green in four rounds. Hadn't made better than double-bogey, in fact; had spent more time than I cared to tromping around in the desert to the left of the green. The wind was howling -- and I mean HOWLING, like only a Nebraska wind can howl, right into our faces. We were playing the upper tee. (Are they still using that one?) I thought: Well, what the hell, I haven't hit the green yet -- so let's try something different. It was time for my favorite shot -- a knockdown-fade driver that never gets more than about 15 feet off the ground. Looks a lot like Tiger's "stinger," except that his draws and mine fades. Anyway: The wind was SO strong that day that even my knockdown driver ballooned up into it -- and came down, as Sam Snead put it, like a butterfly with sore feet. Two bounces, a little roll, and softly into the cup! Ace with a driver -- man, did that look good in the agate type on the Sports page.

My fourth, and final, hole-in-one was at a course that the Minnesotans and ex-Minnesotans among us (Shefchik, John Conley, Jeff McDowell, Shel, Larry Keltto) have likely played, but the rest of you have probably never heard of: Braemar Golf Course, a municipal course in Edina, Minnesota, where I played probably half of the rounds I played as a kid. This was many, many years after I was a kid; I was playing there on a crisp September morning, with my cousin Charlie. We were at the 3rd hole -- a hole utterly without architectural distinction. It's 166 yards from the back tee, flat from tee to green, no bunkers of any interest, with a large, mostly flat green that falls off on the back. It was slightly downwind that day; the pin was toward the back -- right by the cross-ridge that marks the front edge of a false rear. I grabbed my 8-iron and hit it hard -- right at the stick. It bounced near the front and rolled and rolled and disappeared from view. I figured it was nothing to be excited about: I'd hit it right at this pin before -- and had found it on the back fringe. My cousin said: "I think it's in!" I pooh-poohed the notion. He said: "No, I really think it's in the hole!" And he was right.

So there you have it: four aces -- and three on famous holes. A man couldn't ask for much more than that!

P.S. Well, OK, I don't have four aces.

I was bluffing.

I have one ace -- and three jokers.

The first three, of course, are pure (so to speak) fiction.

The fourth is the truth! I kid you not! When it ran in the agate type -- "Dan Kelly, Mpls., No. 3 at Braemar G.C., Edina, 166 yards, 8-iron" -- a colleague clipped it, photocopied it, and taped it on my office door, with the notation: "A long 8, but a great one." He got that right!
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THuckaby2

Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #47 on: September 22, 2003, 12:16:13 PM »
shivas:

You and I have commiserated over this before, methinks.  But this clinches it, anyway:  you are now Executive VP of the He-Man Aceless Stud Club.  Obviously Bob is our President and Gran Poobah.  I only rate merit as Recording Secretary or something - I think I've only holed 3-4 full swing shots in my entire golf life.   :'(

TH

ps - well done, Dan K.! You really had me going... fish on!

THuckaby2

Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #48 on: September 22, 2003, 12:32:49 PM »
OK, that does it, you rise to Chairman of the Board.  You ARE jinxed, big time.  Of course I don't have to remind you of the countless little old ladies, complete hacks, raw beginners with multiple holes in one... I'm sure you know.  :'(

The golf gods are vengeful and cruel.  I just wonder where did we go wrong?    ;)

TH

Dan Kelly

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Re:Where did you get YOUR hole(s) in one
« Reply #49 on: September 22, 2003, 12:48:43 PM »
WTFIT??

Maybe she's just more talented?
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