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Guy Nicholson

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #125 on: July 08, 2015, 10:15:38 PM »
I was there last month. I loved the symbolism of the old opener, straight out to sea and directly at the island, but I agree that the new sequence is better for the same reasons above.

Matt Kardash

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #126 on: July 09, 2015, 05:44:23 PM »
I don't know if this was a factor or not, but maybe they changed the routing to avoid starting with a blind tee shot. Not only that, but with the new configuration you get some seaside holes on the front 9 as well. With the old routing you didn't get to the water until the 11th hole (the cape). You saw all that water and it felt painfully long before you got to play next to it! Now the water holes are 6, 8, 14,15,16.Maybe a little more balanced in that regard.
However, I will say it was a thrill attempting (in all honesty I wasn't really attempting, it just kind of happened) to drive the green on the first hole. I played from the back tees (380 yards) with a tail wind. I was able to get my drive pin high on the bank of the pot bunker at the front right of the green. I think that was my favourite start ever to a round.
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the interviewer asked beck how he felt "being the bob dylan of the 90's" and beck quitely responded "i actually feel more like the bon jovi of the 60's"

Howard Riefs

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #127 on: July 10, 2015, 05:20:05 PM »
"Golf combines two favorite American pastimes: Taking long walks and hitting things with a stick."  ~P.J. O'Rourke

Wayne_Kozun

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #128 on: July 11, 2015, 05:49:46 PM »
I just finished my third (and final for now) round at CC, along with three each morning at CL.  The course is still very much a work in progress with many unfinished bunkers and very hairy and slow greens.


CC is a fantastic course with a closing stretch from 15-18 that is hard to top.


But there are several other great holes as well. The seventh is extremely memorable with a forced carry over a chasm to a great fairway that has a hog's back running down much of its centre.


The second is also a great hole with an upside down V shaped green with severe slope - I don't know how it will play with faster greens.


The fifth is a shortish par four that looks way longer. The sixth is a very cool Dell type of par 3 hole that should be called either The Sand Pit or Ants.


On 17 I drove into one of the left green side bunkers one day. Today I hit a little too far left to catch the slope so my ball was about 75 yards from the green. I putted down the severe downslope and just missed going into the same bunker.


The views on the course are spectacular and the current setup around the 18th green is great where there are chairs and tables set up for you to enjoy a drink after your round.


The course is a tougher walk than CL, especially the front nine, and 36 a day at CL and CC certainly does wear you out.


I can't wait to come back again and play the course when it is in a more finished state - but already it is a great joy.

Don Hyslop

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #129 on: July 14, 2015, 10:03:57 PM »
A great interview with Bill and Ben about their creation now finished.
https://www.cabotlinks.com/qa-with-bill-coore-and-ben-crenshaw/
Thompson golf holes were created to look as if they had always been there and were always meant to be there.

Don Hyslop

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #130 on: July 20, 2015, 04:14:44 PM »
Thompson golf holes were created to look as if they had always been there and were always meant to be there.

Pete Garvey

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #131 on: July 21, 2015, 11:51:57 AM »
Playing there this Thursday and Friday.  Has anyone played within the last couple of days?  Condition?

Thanks,

Pete Garvey

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #132 on: July 21, 2015, 11:58:00 AM »
Cabot is the only course outside of the USA where I have expressed interest in going.  You bastards that are whining about how difficult the walk on the Cliffs is better be right because it is costing me a trip.

George Pazin

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #133 on: July 21, 2015, 01:24:09 PM »
Cabot is the only course outside of the USA where I have expressed interest in going.  You bastards that are whining about how difficult the walk on the Cliffs is better be right because it is costing me a trip.

So the plan is working...

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Wish I could've caddied the Ran, Tom, and Ben group. Hopefully someone will share some more stories from the day.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

William_G

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #134 on: July 21, 2015, 02:29:51 PM »
Playing there this Thursday and Friday.  Has anyone played within the last couple of days?  Condition?

Thanks,

Pete Garvey

condition?? young
It's all about the golf!

Wayne_Kozun

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #135 on: July 21, 2015, 04:58:05 PM »
Playing there this Thursday and Friday.  Has anyone played within the last couple of days?  Condition?
I played July 9, 10 and 11 and each day there was progress.  Some of the greens were much faster on my last day and there were more bunkers with sand.  The weather has been excellent in the last couple of weeks so there should be no issues there - much of the hydro-seeding that had just occurred when I was there should be starting to take hold.

Daryl David

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #136 on: July 21, 2015, 04:58:48 PM »
Playing there this Thursday and Friday.  Has anyone played within the last couple of days?  Condition?

Thanks,

Pete Garvey


Fairways are in excellent shape.  Probably not as fast as they will be, but still plenty of roll.  Greens are grassed nicely and running about 6, so very slow.  It is hard to feel the contours at that speed, you just need to use your imagination as to how they will work in the future.  Some bunkers have not been finished with sand so are bare clay.  You just pull the ball out of those and continue on. The ones that have sand are fine.


Lots of elevation change, but not a terribly hard walk.  Almost all the green to tee transitions are short and the routing is excellent.


Conditions aside, this is a fabulous course.  I was very impressed by what I saw last week and can't wait to see it mature.

Bill_McBride

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #137 on: July 21, 2015, 07:08:12 PM »
Playing there this Thursday and Friday.  Has anyone played within the last couple of days?  Condition?

Thanks,

Pete Garvey


Fairways are in excellent shape.  Probably not as fast as they will be, but still plenty of roll.  Greens are grassed nicely and running about 6, so very slow.  It is hard to feel the contours at that speed, you just need to use your imagination as to how they will work in the future.  Some bunkers have not been finished with sand so are bare clay.  You just pull the ball out of those and continue on. The ones that have sand are fine.


Lots of elevation change, but not a terribly hard walk.  Almost all the green to tee transitions are short and the routing is excellent.


Conditions aside, this is a fabulous course.  I was very impressed by what I saw last week and can't wait to see it mature.


Assuming that you played both courses at Cabot, how would you compare and contrast them?


Did you make it up to Highland Links?   There's a rare treat!

Wayne_Kozun

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #138 on: July 21, 2015, 09:15:07 PM »
CL is a links course, while CC is not although they both are pretty much all fescue. CC has more dramatic holes, like the finishing stretch from 15-18, and has more forced carries that would be difficult for high handicappers, like 2 and 7. They both have some of the quirkiness that you get more in UK courses, like mounds directly in front of greens, such as 3(formerly eight) at CL and 13 at CC.


CC has much more elevation changes and is a harder walk than CL, especially the front nine. CL is more subtle than CC in some ways but I would say that they are both excellent courses and well worth the effort to visit. CL feels more like a Scottish course in that you start and finish in the town and can use features like church steeples as aiming points. CC is much more out in the wilderness.
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #139 on: July 21, 2015, 09:52:54 PM »
More difficult walk talk. How does the walk compare to Bandon Trails or the Streamsong courses?  How can a course with six par threes be both a difficult walk and a great routing?

Wayne_Kozun

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #140 on: July 21, 2015, 11:35:29 PM »
I haven't been to Bandon or Streamsong so I can't comment relative to those two course.  By harder to walk I meant that CC is harder than CL as CL is relatively flat.  After playing both courses each day (with a caddy for all rounds) and walking 14.5 miles over 36 holes I was rather tired but not dead - I am 50 and in average shape at best.  I wouldn't say CC is an extremely hard walk, but there is some up and down on the front nine, particularly the walk from the 7th tee to fairway.

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #141 on: July 21, 2015, 11:42:47 PM »
Wayne, what top 100 course would you compare the difficulty of the walk to?  As an example, to say a  couse is more difficult to walk than Pinehurst #2 doesn't mean the course is a difficult walk. It's simply unneeded negativity.

Wayne_Kozun

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #142 on: July 22, 2015, 09:16:48 AM »
Sorry about the negative waves man - this is starting to sound like Kelly's Heroes.  But nowhere did I say Cabot Cliffs was a tough walk - it is just harder relative to CL.


I would say that the course is a bit easier of a walk than Highlands Links - a similar amount of elevation change but no long walk like you have from 12 to 13 on that course.  But I would say it is a tougher walk than courses like TOC, Dornoch, PB, Spyglass, Shinny, Merion, and Friar's Head to name a few more top 100 courses as CL is a bit more spread out than most of these courses and has more elevation changes.  The toughest section is probably the walk to the 7th fairway as this is a fairly steep sandy path.

Wayne_Kozun

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #143 on: July 24, 2015, 06:25:52 PM »
Today John Paul Newport's story in the Wall Street Journal on Cabot Cliffs was posted: 
http://www.wsj.com/articles/golfs-new-scenic-outpost-nova-scotia-1437767411

Wayne_Kozun

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #144 on: July 30, 2015, 03:51:50 PM »
Apparently GCA'er Lloyd Cole is doing a concert in Cape Breton and stopping by to check out Cabot cliffs.
http://www.capebretonpost.com/Living/2015-07-28/article-4228629/British-singer,-writer-here-to-perform,-golf/1

Here's a story from the Halifax paper on Lloyd's travels to Nova Scotia and it contains a good quote from Lloyd about golf:
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“That’s kind of the point of golf,” he muses. “And it’s not just music. Sometimes, I quite forget I have a wife and children. Basically, you’re just trying to get the ball in the hole, and that’s it.
“Everybody needs something like that, even musicians. So it comes down to doing heroin or playing golf.”
« Last Edit: July 30, 2015, 03:58:18 PM by Wayne_Kozun »

Don Hyslop

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #145 on: August 17, 2015, 06:18:55 PM »
A nice video on the Cliffs from Score Golf and Bob Weeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=288&v=UWpmQKlL_OM
Thompson golf holes were created to look as if they had always been there and were always meant to be there.

Tom_Doak

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #146 on: August 17, 2015, 09:40:53 PM »

Wish I could've caddied the Ran, Tom, and Ben group. Hopefully someone will share some more stories from the day.


I wish you had caddied for me that day, too.  On the first hole my caddie scrambled up a small slope to look for my tee shot, slipped, and snapped the shaft of my driver as he braced himself.  :)  He was mortified.  Ran and I kidded him about it the rest of the day, and I just managed to beat Ran in the end, borrowing his driver the rest of the way.

Chris DeToro

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #147 on: October 15, 2015, 02:56:10 PM »
Just got back from a long weekend at Cabot.  What an unbelievable place.  Both courses are phenomenal.  We played 36 at Links/Cliffs on Sunday in cool, very windy conditions and then 18 at the Links on Monday morning in warmer, calm conditions.  I found both courses easy to walk--Links is easier to walk, but Cliffs is very manageable too.  My dad who hardly ever walks, walked 36 on Links/Cliffs on Sunday pulling a trolley without a problem. 

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