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Sven Nilsen

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Kenora G&CC - Stanley Thompson (1923)
« on: November 04, 2013, 01:11:05 PM »
Has anyone played this Stanley Thompson design on the shores of Lake of the Woods in Ontario?  The description of the course suggests it has undergone little in the way of alterations, with the back tees stretching out to just over 6,300 yards.  The land the course sits on seems to contain the types of elevation changes that make for interesting golf, and despite its age the course does not appear to be overrun with foliage.

I have an early photo of the clubhouse, which matches up very nicely with the photos on the clubs website (http://kenoragolf.com/www/kgcc/html/).

"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

Tyler Kearns

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Re: Kenora G&CC - Stanley Thompson (1923)
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2013, 02:18:15 PM »
Sven,

I have played Kenora G & CC a few times, and it is my understanding that Thompson originally designed a 9 hole course.  Later, Robert Moote (former associate of Thompson) renovated the existing holes and added 11 to create a new 18 hole golf course.  It has been awhile since I played there, but the newer holes (front side I believe) is routed over much steeper terrain and the holes suffer as a result.  I remember the Thompson holes as being alright, but nothing spectacular, and certainly wouldn't qualify as some long forgotten Thompson gem.

TK

Tom_Doak

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Re: Kenora G&CC - Stanley Thompson (1923)
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2013, 02:21:14 PM »
I have not seen the course, but when I asked my latest intern Riley Johns (who's from Alberta) my standard question about his favorite hidden gem, he named Kenora.  He said the course is laid out right on top of solid rock, and has some pretty wild undulations that they couldn't really afford to change.

Sven Nilsen

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Re: Kenora G&CC - Stanley Thompson (1923)
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2013, 02:32:58 PM »
Found this write up of the history of golf in Kenora:

TEEING OFF: GOLF'S BEGINNINGS IN KENORA

Vol. 10 No.3
by Lori Nelson

While Lake of the Woods was the scene of most of the summer's entertainment for Kenora residents and visitors in the early days, there were those who felt that boating, fishing, and swimming might not appeal to all the potential tourist trade. A wider variety of leisure activity opportunities was considered necessary to boost the area's appeal as a summer resort.

As a result, in 1912, discussions got underway regarding the development of a golf course and club.

The Following Appeared In An Issue Of The 1912 Miner And News:

"It is likely that an effort will be made at once looking to the organization of a Golf Club and securing the necessary grounds for links. The question had been discussed on different occasions and it seems to be the general opinion that this is one feature which the town lacks to make it the most popular of summer resorts. During the past few seasons, it has been pointed out by some of our summer residents that it is almost necessary for us to have golf links within a reasonable distance from town, in order to encourage many devotees of the game to spend their summer vacations here. The enthusiastic golfer misses his game, with its consequent exercise when he's here. They all admit the charm of Lake of the Woods; the beauty of the scenery, etc. but they feel they would enjoy it better if they could have an occasional game of golf. A number of those who have homes on the lake, and who frequently invite guests to spend a few days with them, find difficulty in entertaining them at times. This difficulty would be removed, they believe, if they could take them out for a game of golf."

While the town officials, Board of Trade, and locals were in favour of having a course, the difficulty was in securing cleared land.

One of the first proposals was that the course be located on Town Island. The 200-acre island was large enough in size to provide ample acreage for a course and a park, but the inaccessibility of the island was an obvious drawback. This proposal was abandoned.

Finally, in 1922, a club was organized. The Greenwood and Metcalfe family farms were purchased. Shares were sold for $100 each in order to raise funds for the clearing of the course and the construction of the clubhouse.

Early course preparation involved clearing stones from the course with horses, and fairways and greens were maintained with horse-drawn mowers.

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The Kenora Golf clubhouse was completed in 1926, two years after the course was opened

On July 5, 1924, the course was open for play. It wasn't until the summer of 1926, though, that the new clubhouse was complete. The new building had a kitchen, large gathering room with fireplace, locker rooms, and the golf pro's apartment.

Jack Vernon, a pro-golfer from England, was the club's first pro.

Under his guidance the course became one of the prettiest and most challenging in this part of the country, said longtime golfer, Roger Swanson.

Jack Vernon also trained all the caddies. There were about 50 of them employed by the club in the twenties and thirties, and Vernon tested each caddy to ensure that they were polite, able to keep up while carrying heavy golf bags, and handled themselves well on the course. Caddies were assigned on a first come, first serve basis, and the young men received 25¢ per round, although 5¢ of that went to the club. They also received tips. Usually they weren't allowed to play, however, this rule was waived in return for special jobs done around the course, like bringing ice from the old ice house to the kitchen, or raking the roughs or weeding the greens.

Donations of trophies for competition were made by George Drewry, Mrs. Seegmiller, James Link, Earle C. Popham, Mrs. J. Gunne, T.D. Ruggles, and others. They were presented for both men's and women's competitions.

Over the years, improvements and expansion to the course and clubhouse have been made. In 1988, another nine holes were added. There has been a change in maintenance equipment and in golfing equipment. Caddies are a thing of the past. Golf carts have taken over. The number of clubs has increased and so have the number of people involved in the sport.
"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

Guy Nicholson

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Re: Kenora G&CC - Stanley Thompson (1923)
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2013, 04:32:50 PM »
I played it as a teenager in the mid-1980s. (Thompson did a few courses in NW Ontario, including Fort William in Thunder Bay and a resort course at Minaki, which may NLE).

Kenora was nine holes when I was there. They added the second nine sometime around the late 80s, and those are the holes with the craziest undulation. They were also extremely firm when I played them, as grass takes much longer to grow out in that part of the world. There was a lot of hardpan, bordered by unforgiving bush -- I didn't know much about GCA at the time, but I definitely preferred the originals purely on grounds of playability.

Tyler Kearns

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Re: Kenora G&CC - Stanley Thompson (1923)
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2013, 04:45:43 PM »
Guy,

Minaki is most definitely NLE, the final straw to prevent its resurrection was when the lodge burned down in 2003.  The golf course is no longer maintained.

The golf course at Fort William has some interesting holes and is situated in a nice setting.  We completed a master plan for them nearly 10 years ago but haven't heard much from them since - I certainly want to go back and re-acquaint myself with the course.

TK

Guy Nicholson

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Re: Kenora G&CC - Stanley Thompson (1923)
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2013, 04:50:27 PM »
Thanks Tyler. Does Kenora still have that little pitch par-3, essentially knob to knob, it may have been the old 8th hole? That's the one that stands out to me.

I also enjoyed Fort William when I played it around the same period. The mountain background produced some real depth perception issues on a few holes.

Tyler Kearns

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Re: Kenora G&CC - Stanley Thompson (1923)
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2013, 06:02:33 PM »
Guy,

That hole still exists, although in the current configuration it is the 12th hole.

TK

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