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Jason Topp

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #50 on: September 10, 2013, 12:06:12 AM »


Jason the tree work has definitely improved the course (and I still think it could go another 300!). Was this your first time playing the "new" #11?
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I played it once before but bailed out left off the tee.  This time I went over the water and was surprised how little room you have if you cannot fly it over the trees.  

Cory Lewis

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #51 on: September 10, 2013, 06:52:52 AM »
Found my green hat to help remind Lewis of his squad's performance on national television tonight.
Yeah, Yeah.  Keep giving me crap.  Just remember who's house you are sleeping in tonight.  Your odds of getting a good night's sleep keep going down ;)
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Jason Topp

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #52 on: September 10, 2013, 10:59:40 AM »
Doak Questions about Interlachen

1.  I think it's fair to make some comparisons to the architect's other courses, as long as you say WHY the Redan at Chicago is better or worse than another.  (Holes-in-one do not count.)
It is difficult for me to put my finger on it, but Interlachen feels quite different from other Ross courses I have played.  Perhaps it is the Watson original design that has that influence.  Ross is known for high tee, low fairway, high green holes.  Interlachen has many holes that follow that formula but the uphill nature of the approaches is more extreme than I have experienced elsewhere.  
There is also something unique about the length of holes.  There are a large number of holes in the 360 yard range that place severe demands on pitches into the green.

2.  Everyone should include the hole they like the least and why.
I really do not like the 18th, despite its history. With modern green speeds, the hole requires a bank shot from the back left part of the green to hold it.  Long is death.  Short is rough covered and shots landing on a large portion of the green have no chance to stay there.  

3.  Everyone should say which hole they think is the most underrated and why.  (A vote on the best hole is much less interesting.)

I am a huge fan of 15 which is a downhill hole of 400 yards or so.  A 3 wood leaves a flat lie and a shot of 150 or so.  If you want a wedge in you need to squeeze the tee shot into a tight spot.  The green slopes significantly providing added incentive to be aggressive off the tee.

4.  Everyone should feel free to discuss what they think has been changed for the worse and why;

As discussed above, I am not certain I like 11 as a par 4 better than 11 as a short par 5.  Overall, the course has dramatically improved with the work of (I believe) Brian Silva.
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Dan Kelly

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #53 on: September 10, 2013, 02:30:36 PM »
2.  Everyone should include the hole they like the least and why.
I really do not like the 18th, despite its history. With modern green speeds, the hole requires a bank shot from the back left part of the green to hold it.  Long is death.  Short is rough covered and shots landing on a large portion of the green have no chance to stay there.  


If you were the King of the World, how would you fix No. 18 at Interlachen?

Any other changes you'd make there, during your reign?
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Jason Topp

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #54 on: September 10, 2013, 03:12:01 PM »
2.  Everyone should include the hole they like the least and why.
I really do not like the 18th, despite its history. With modern green speeds, the hole requires a bank shot from the back left part of the green to hold it.  Long is death.  Short is rough covered and shots landing on a large portion of the green have no chance to stay there.  


If you were the King of the World, how would you fix No. 18 at Interlachen?

Any other changes you'd make there, during your reign?

Soften the slope on the green or slow the green down.  I would then make grass in front of the green fairway rather than rough.

Probably if I were King, I would slow the greens to 8, get rid of much of the rough surrounding the greens and put pins on the slopes that now repel balls.

Cory Lewis

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #55 on: September 11, 2013, 09:22:47 PM »
Wednesday - a day long beating of Cory Lewis at Greensboro CC and Old Town.
Topp's day long beating of me did not quite go as planned.  As seen below I now have in my possesion not 1 but 2 dollar bills signed by Mr. Topp as trophies for the beat down he received on the golf course today.



Of course he couldn't help but take a swipe at my beloved football team since he knew I was going to post these on here  ;D

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Bruce Wellmon

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #56 on: September 11, 2013, 09:25:28 PM »
So........what did you guys think of OTC?

Cory Lewis

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #57 on: September 11, 2013, 09:26:27 PM »
So........what did you guys think of OTC?
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Steve Lang

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #58 on: September 11, 2013, 09:54:01 PM »
 8)  Jason,

$ says you can't play half par on #7-14 at Southern Pine thurs...  you should be warmed up through 6 holes

regards,
steve

 
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Jason Topp

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #59 on: September 11, 2013, 10:16:04 PM »
Lewis got a few lucky breaks. Old Town was fantastic. Tremendous care was taken to recreate a special course.
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Jeff Shelman

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #60 on: September 11, 2013, 10:43:28 PM »
What did you think of Greensboro CC Farm?

I played there a couple of years ago and thought there were a bunch of good holes.

Jason Topp

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #61 on: September 12, 2013, 04:41:37 AM »
8)  Jason,

$ says you can't play half par on #7-14 at Southern Pine thurs...  you should be warmed up through 6 holes

regards,
steve

 
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OK.  But I can't get too cocky about it and we are playing the whites.

Andrew Buck

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #62 on: September 12, 2013, 10:28:48 AM »
I am really enjoying this thread, thanks Jason.

hhuffines

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #63 on: September 15, 2013, 09:25:20 PM »
A weary Jason Topp proved to be a tough adversary and great partner against two lurkers today.  I had to shoot a career back nine on #2 to edge him out 1 up.  His strecth of 1 over on holes 1-5 were tough to overcome... Looking forward to hearing how he faired on Thistle Dhu after lunch.

Jason, hope you had a safe trip home and thanks again for my WF cap.  Hope you will post more photos and a summary of your course evaluations.

Jason Topp

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #64 on: September 16, 2013, 10:47:34 AM »
I am too tired for course evaluations for now, but I did enjoy the fact the Lewis house was very friendly to dogs:



But not friendly at all to stick people:


Jason Topp

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #65 on: September 16, 2013, 10:53:58 AM »

Dunlop_White

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #66 on: September 17, 2013, 09:39:09 AM »
Don't ever count Jason Topp out of a hole. Last week, he proved to be a master recovery shot artist.

Dan Kelly

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #67 on: September 17, 2013, 09:54:26 AM »
Don't ever count Jason Topp out of a hole. Last week, he proved to be a master recovery shot artist.

If I were Jason, I might say something like: "He's had plenty of practice."
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Jason Topp

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #68 on: September 17, 2013, 10:05:23 AM »
Don't ever count Jason Topp out of a hole. Last week, he proved to be a master recovery shot artist.

If I were Jason, I might say something like: "He's had plenty of practice."

I have had plenty of practice but I just wanted to gain a keen understanding of the bunkering at Old Town and try an alternate fairway on one hole.

Jason Topp

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #69 on: September 17, 2013, 10:20:21 AM »
Greensboro CC – Farm was extensively renovated by Donald Steel in 2009.  It is on a nice piece of property with plenty of elevation change but no severe hill climbing.  It was awarded best renovation of 2010 by Joe Passov at Golf Magazine http://www.golf.com/courses-and-travel/greensboro-country-club-farm-course-2010-renovation-year.

Here is a blurry picture of the long par 3 fifth hole (I believe).



By all accounts Steel dramatically improved a course originally designed by Ellis Maples.  One thing I really liked about the renovation was the restrained bunkering employed by Steel.  

I really enjoyed the course and would happily add it to any itinerary.  It is very playable for all levels but provides a stern challenge to the best.  However, because this trip involved such a murderer’s row of high quality venues, it did not stand out for me the way it might if it were another trip.  The greens were relatively tame and the course featured one good solid hole after another.

By about the 5th hole it was apparent that (1) I should not have taunted Cory about the performance of his Redskins and (2) I made a great decision by setting the stakes at $1.  Lewis refused to make a bogey the entire round.  He shot 32 on the front side to put me 3 down.  He followed up by playing the back nine 1 under.  I tried to fight back with my 4 shots on the back but eventually succumbed 2 and 1 when I could not make a 15 foot birdie putt on the 17th.

Cory Lewis

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #70 on: September 17, 2013, 02:58:41 PM »
I am too tired for course evaluations for now, but I did enjoy the fact the Lewis house was very friendly to dogs:

But not friendly at all to stick people:

Geez, now there are pictures of my house and car on the internet.  If I had anything of value in either one of them I might be worried ;)
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Greg Tallman

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #71 on: September 17, 2013, 04:09:15 PM »
Your refusal to sign a Mexican Peso note was and remains offensive. Dollars only huh?






 ;)

Jason Topp

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #72 on: September 17, 2013, 04:14:00 PM »
Your refusal to sign a Mexican Peso note was and remains offensive. Dollars only huh?
 ;)

I did not have my sharpie yet.

Cory Lewis

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #73 on: September 17, 2013, 08:12:27 PM »
I have had plenty of practice but I just wanted to gain a keen understanding of the bunkering at Old Town and try an alternate fairway on one hole.

The aforementioned alternate fairway that Jason "tried".  Jason might be the only person I know that can miss a 110 yard wide double fairway to the right from the left tee of the two holes!


Of course he did make birdie from here so I guess I can't really doubt his "strategy"
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Steve Lang

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Re: Topp's Travels 2013 - Destroying GCA'ers $1 at a time
« Reply #74 on: September 17, 2013, 08:25:11 PM »
 8) that gives broader meaning to Topp's Travels... and gca design.. he didn't get away with that at Kingsley but did at Fallen Oaks outside Biloxii?
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