[Anthony Gray]

  ?

[BCrosby]

Yes, all the time, every day, since time immemorial. 

Next question.

Bob

[Terry Lavin]

As Mr. Gray might say himself, "Imitation is the highest form of flattory."

[Kalen Braley]

Has plagerism ever happened with dental techniques? 

[Terry Lavin]

Has plagerism ever happened with dental techniques? 

I'll bet that plagiarism is endemic in good dental practices.

[Michael Wharton-Palmer]

kalen...ALL the time, that is how we learn

[Kalen Braley]

Has plagerism ever happened with dental techniques? 

I'll bet that plagiarism is endemic in good dental practices.

From 35+ years of going to the dentist, I would concur it is endimic.

Although i'm glad I no longer get the flouride goop in the tooth tray thingee.  That was always the worst part of going, even worse than getting the drill for a cavity.

[Anthony Gray]

Yes, all the time, every day, since time immemorial. 

Next question.

Bob

  Who and where did it first happen?

  Anthony

[Dan Kelly]

Has plagerism ever happened with dental techniques? 

I'll bet that plagiarism is endemic in good dental practices.

Thank you. I was beginning to think that I'm the only person here who knows how to spell!

(BTW: Please don't take this as any sort of attempt to flattor [sic].)

[BCrosby]

Yes, all the time, every day, since time immemorial.  

Next question.

Bob

  Who and where did it first happen?

  Anthony

I climbed into my Wayback machine at lunch and asked to be taken to the place where golf course plagiarism first occurred. There was a metalic groan, smoke poured out of the dashboard and a card appeared that read: "Does not compute."

Bob

[Garland Bayley]

Certainly golf course features have been copied from existing courses. I doubt many have a problem with that.

The problem occurs when a job is bid with preliminary design features asked for in the bid. Then a losing architect's feature or features end up in the winning architects work.

For a similar example, Tom Doak has stated he refused to provide a routing plan to bid on doing Hunter Ranch in Paso Robles. He says he didn't trust the client. After the bidding was done, the owner went ahead and did the course himself. Tom figures that since the owner had already gone through the golf course building process with an architect at his La Purisma property, the owner thought he could do it himself.

[Matthew Petersen]

What about courses like Tour 18 or others that deliberately attempt to recreate (though often quite poorly) famous holes?

Or is that more like covering a song since everyone knows you're not trying to pass it off as your own work?

[Terry Lavin]

Has plagerism ever happened with dental techniques?  

I'll bet that plagiarism is endemic in good dental practices.

Thank you. I was beginning to think that I'm the only person here who knows how to spell!

(BTW: Please don't take this as any sort of attempt to flattor [sic].)

My tongue was firmly in chic, so to speak, since it's Anthony's shtick to misspell in pretty much every post.

[Dan Kelly]

Has plagerism ever happened with dental techniques?  

I'll bet that plagiarism is endemic in good dental practices.

Thank you. I was beginning to think that I'm the only person here who knows how to spell!

(BTW: Please don't take this as any sort of attempt to flattor [sic].)

My tongue was firmly in chic, so to speak, since it's Anthony's shtick to misspell in pretty much every post.

I hadn't noticed that patter(n)! Will watch for it, hencefourth.

By the way: Does he spell tyop correctly?

(Rihc -- You there, boy?)

[Anthony Gray]

Yes, all the time, every day, since time immemorial.  

Next question.

Bob

  Who and where did it first happen?

  Anthony

I climbed into my Wayback machine at lunch and asked to be taken to the place where golf course plagiarism first occurred. There was a metalic groan, smoke poured out of the dashboard and a card appeared that read: "Does not compute."

Bob

  Call MIke Young and tell him some dork has a question..........if he's over the Tech game.

  Anthony

[BCrosby]

Come to think of it, Mike has been awfully quiet lately.

Remember, he took a double hit. Clemson lost AND UGA won. It must of been ugly at his house Saturday night.

[Andy Stamm]

What about courses like Tour 18 or others that deliberately attempt to recreate (though often quite poorly) famous holes?

Or is that more like covering a song since everyone knows you're not trying to pass it off as your own work?

Tour 18 had to make some changes because of lawsuits from Pebble, Pinehurst, Harbor Town, et al. That's as close to plagiarism as it gets, I think.

[BCrosby]

Andy -

I don't remember what a happened in the aftermath of the court case. Did they have to make changes to the course or just changes to the way they advertised the course?

Bob

[Lester George]

Yes it happens.  Based on my personal knowledge of it (no I won't elaborate) it happens more than you might expect. 

If an architect "copies" the green plans from his latest and greatest job and use them on another course, is that plagerism?  I think so.  If you agree, then some architects are guilty of multiple violations.

Lester 

[Dan Kelly]

Andy -

I don't remember what a happened in the aftermath of the court case. Did they have to make changes to the course or just changes to the way they advertised the course?

Bob

Here's the preliminary: http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/1995_1309260/lawyers-make-final-arguments-in-tour-18-lawsuit.html.

And an update: http://www.chron.com/sports/golf/article/10-year-old-Tour-18-survives-litigation-2087321.php

Seems to me they had to tear down the Lighthouse -- didn't they?

P.S. Ha! Score one for my rapidly aging brain! http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/1998_3083075/tour-18-lighthouse-must-go-court-says.html

[astavrides]

Has plagerism ever happened with dental techniques? 

A more debatable question might be, 'has innovation ever happened in dentistry?'

[BCrosby]

Dan -

Thanks. Interesting that they were not required to change any "playing surfaces".

Bob

[Kalen Braley]

Has plagerism ever happened with dental techniques? 

A more debatable question might be, 'has innovation ever happened in dentistry?'

Hmm,

Given "old school" dental tools.  I pick now!!   

[SL_Solow]

Is it plagarism if the architect copies his own work?  It may show a lack of creativity but plagiarism, if that term applies in this context, suggests taking someone else's work without attribution and claiming it for your own.  Clearly where an architect reuses his own ideas he is not plagiarizing.  Moreover, if he is inspired by someone else but makes modifications he is likely not plagiarizing although it would be apprpriate to acknowledge one's inspiration.

[Colin Macqueen]

Gentlemen,
I wasn't going to post this but you haven't taken Dan Kelly's admonition to heart!

Plagerism.......No entries found. Did you mean plagiarism / plagiarize?!

I will not practice plagiary and ever  plagiarize the word plagerism!

Cheers Colin

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