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David Kelly

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2011, 05:22:54 PM »
Being completely blind, the original at North Berwick is unlike all of the others in this thread.

Richard,

You really don't put any weight behind being the original and inspiration for all of the others?
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Jason Baran

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2011, 05:29:32 PM »
Creek #8 (reverse)
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Richard Choi

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2011, 06:22:51 PM »
Quote from: David Kelly on April 18, 2011, 05:22:54 PM
Being completely blind, the original at North Berwick is unlike all of the others in this thread.

Richard,

You really don't put any weight behind being the original and inspiration for all of the others?

I think an original is certainly a quality hole since it was good enough to inspire other designs just like it. However, I don't necessarily think just because it is the first, it is the best representation of that idea.
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V. Kmetz

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2011, 06:25:34 PM »
Richard,

#9 at CC of Fairfield (CT) - almost entirely blind and very interesting ground short of the green.

cheers

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Kevin Pallier

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2011, 06:55:37 PM »
Nominations

I will try and post pics in due course

Redan / Redan Style =
#7 Shinnecock
#7 Chicago
#2 Fishers Isalnd
#12 Old Macdonald

#17 Pacific Dunes
#4 Riviera

Reverse Redan =
#12 Fishers Island
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Alex Miller

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2011, 07:14:34 PM »
Quote from: Howard Riefs on April 18, 2011, 04:30:24 PM
Kiawah Island, The Ocean Course, Hole #8







I thought Kiawah's redan was the 14th. 8 isn't really a redan, and is closer to a reverse redan than anything.
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Alex Miller

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2011, 07:17:54 PM »
By the way, are we taking reverse redan nominations? Cause if so LACC #11 is a hole which deserves to be in this competition!

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Mac Plumart

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2011, 07:46:20 PM »
Rivermont #4



The "pimple" in the middle of the green is a really nice touch.
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JNC Lyon

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2011, 07:56:20 PM »
8 at Inniscrone--I really hope this one is on the list, and there should be some good photos in the Bausch collection.
6 at Fox Chapel
6 at Yeamans Hall
12 at Hackensack
THE ORIGINAL REDAN => North Berwick
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Dave Falkner

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« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2011, 07:58:56 PM »
7th at Westhampton

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Jim Briggs

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2011, 07:59:48 PM »

#4 at Hidden Creek.  Pictures in Ran's review.
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jonathan_becker

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2011, 08:14:36 PM »
Philly Country 7
Kingsley 16

PD 17



TCCPP 14 (the smallest redan I've ever seen)



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Carr Harris

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2011, 08:24:02 PM »
The reverse redan 7th @ Dormie Club






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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2011, 08:31:57 PM »
I second JNC for the reverse redan #6 at Fox Chapel...I suggest it has the most sloped Redan green of them all; if you are above the hole, enjoy the slide from left to right!!


« Last Edit: April 18, 2011, 08:36:45 PM by Ronald Tricks O'Hooligan Montesano »
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Bill Brightly

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2011, 09:15:42 PM »
Sevastapol, the original that inspired the original :)

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BCyrgalis

Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2011, 10:06:52 PM »
The ninth hole at North Shore CC



As far as voting, Berwick, NGLA are 1, 2 -- no question.
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Mac Plumart

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2011, 10:12:17 PM »
Bill...

Very cool picture!

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Jim Nugent

Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2011, 11:11:35 PM »
Quote from: Michael Whitaker on April 18, 2011, 04:50:23 PM
Richard - This is going to be a quick competition. The 15th at North Berwick is THE REDAN... all others are pretenders to the throne.

I had a similar thought -- only NGLA would blow away the rest. 
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Scott Warren

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2011, 05:05:21 AM »
Does the approach to #12 (Winthrop) at Fishers Island count? It should!
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Kevin Pallier

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2011, 06:16:21 AM »
Quote from: Scott Warren on April 19, 2011, 05:05:21 AM
Does the approach to #12 (Winthrop) at Fishers Island count? It should!

Scott

See my post at # 29 - it's a reverse redan green
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Scott Warren

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #45 on: April 19, 2011, 06:50:26 AM »
 Didn't see that. Great minds, KP!
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #46 on: April 19, 2011, 12:40:43 PM »
Stevinson Ranch has a interesting redan on the 7th hole.  Couldn't find a picture of it thou.  Perhaps some of the old school GCA'ers have one from the KP held there years ago.
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #47 on: April 19, 2011, 12:54:04 PM »
Quote from: Alex Miller on April 18, 2011, 07:14:34 PM
Quote from: Howard Riefs on April 18, 2011, 04:30:24 PM
Kiawah Island, The Ocean Course, Hole #8







I thought Kiawah's redan was the 14th. 8 isn't really a redan, and is closer to a reverse redan than anything.

Alex, you're right that #8 is a reverse redan, which I believe are being considered. 

As for #14, this thread from last year questions whether that hole is a redan or not.
http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?topic=43994.0
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Bill Brightly

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #48 on: April 19, 2011, 01:09:44 PM »
I have not played Kiawah in many years, but there is no way that Hole 8 is Redan. Nae kick mound, nae Redan, IMO.  Nice hole though.
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Lynn_Shackelford

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #49 on: April 19, 2011, 01:13:38 PM »
Yeaman's
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