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Mark_Rowlinson

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Golf course neighbours
« on: December 12, 2010, 05:40:39 PM »
Yesterday evening, between rehearsal and concert in Southport I was taken back to the conductor's house for tea. He happened to live alongside the 15th fairway of Southport and Ainsdale Golf Club. He and his family do get the odd golf ball landing in their modest garden and the very occasional ball hitting their house. Neither he nor his family plays golf, nor do they have any interest in golf, but they accept that choosing to live where they do they will get the odd golf ball on their property.

Contrast that with somebody who has chosen to buy and live in a house on the far side of a road and hedge beyond the 6th green at Wilmslow Golf Club. They have made it clear through their lawyers that any ball coming onto their property - their house is 50 yards back from the said road - will be deemed a just cause for legal action against the club. The club has taken out a sand bunker out of which players of my incompetence occasionally thinned the ball. It has also erected a high netting fence, totally unbecoming to the location and course. But our lawyers deem it advisable.

Many high profile courses have high profile neighbours - Pebble Beach, Winged Foot etc.

Who are the worst neighbours?

Who will close down a course by their unfriendly neighbourship?

Travis Dewire

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Re: Golf course neighbours
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2010, 06:51:59 PM »
What neighbors at Wilmslow!

Hey, even the best can shoot 'em off the map on occasion

these people need to get with the program

Phil_the_Author

Re: Golf course neighbours
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2010, 11:34:44 PM »
Winged Foot East with the greatest 17 hole course in the world due to a neighbor...

Duncan Cheslett

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Re: Golf course neighbours
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2010, 02:02:31 AM »
My initial reaction to reading your post was 'If you buy a house next to a golf course you've got to expect the odd stray ball in your garden' but looking at the plan of the sixth at Wilmslow I'm a bit puzzled.



It seems that for a ball to reach their property it has to go 30 yards beyond the green, over a fence, over a road , and presumably over their garden wall.

That's one hell of a thin out of a bunker Mark, even for a man of your ability! ;D

I agree totally with your basic premise, though. People buy houses overlooking golf courses because they get a nice view of rolling countryside. They then moan that there are golfers on it intruding on their little lives.

It reminds me of the idiot I once met who bought a house in late autumn backing on to fields. Come summer the place stank to high heaven - it turned out to be a pig farm! He petitioned to have the place closed down - only to be told in no uncertain terms by the council that the farm had been there breeding pigs since around 1650 and that perhaps he could have done some more research before buying the house...



 
« Last Edit: December 13, 2010, 03:01:59 AM by Duncan Cheslett »

Doug Siebert

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Re: Golf course neighbours
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2010, 02:08:56 AM »
There are a lot of legislators who play golf.  You'd think someone would have written it into law that if the course is there before you took ownership of the property, and there have been no significant changes to the layout that would cause a greater likelihood of balls coming onto your property, that it was a pre-existing condition you knew about or should have known about when you bought the property.

On the other hand, a lot of legislators are also lawyers...
My hovercraft is full of eels.

Niall C

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Re: Golf course neighbours
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2010, 07:14:34 AM »
Mark

The first place that I came across that took the issue seriously was Prestwick St Nicholas who were the first club I came across who made a point of giving you an insurance certificate when you paid your green fees. When you saw the broken windows in the houses to the right of the 16th you knew why.

Niall

Bill_McBride

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Re: Golf course neighbours
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2010, 08:07:01 AM »
There's an awful example here in Pensacola, Fl at the public Scenic Hills CC. I played there for a few months when we moved here 15 years ago, before joining Pensacola.

The 16th is a 430 yard 90o dogleg left with a hard left to right camber in the landing area. As a result most will try to drive as close as possible to the OOB in the corner. The big hitters used to try to carry across the  corner.

 Unfortunately, in the corner is a home which was bought years ago by a similar family of non- golfers. Once they moved in and discovered there was a golf there  :o , the lawyers started sending letters and filing suits.

Today there is a sign by the tee warning golfers from cutting the corner.

C. Squier

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Re: Golf course neighbours
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2010, 08:14:34 AM »
I happen to live 200 yrds off the tee on a par 5.  It's the local yocal public course and I'll get the stray ball every once in awhile in the yard or off the house.  No big deal really....and I don't mind a golfer walking over to retrieve his pellet. 

But what I do mind is the odd golfer who thinks it's ok to hit out of my backyard or even drive their cart through it.  That's what drives me nuts. 

Jon Wiggett

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Re: Golf course neighbours
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2010, 12:27:11 PM »
Mark,

Moortown in Leeds is the most blatant in this category for me. They have had to change 6 holes if I remember correctly due to houses that were built after the course and because of owners who knew full well that stray golf balls would be a problem from time to time.

Jon

Sam Morrow

Re: Golf course neighbours
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2010, 12:57:11 PM »
I happen to live 200 yrds off the tee on a par 5.  It's the local yocal public course and I'll get the stray ball every once in awhile in the yard or off the house.  No big deal really....and I don't mind a golfer walking over to retrieve his pellet. 

But what I do mind is the odd golfer who thinks it's ok to hit out of my backyard or even drive their cart through it.  That's what drives me nuts. 

The house I grew up in was on the left side of a par 5 about 100 yards from the green, ideal lay-up territory. Players getting their ball was no big deal, we had a gate so they could come in the yard, the a-holes were the ones who would jump the fence and break the spires. Of course the best was the guy who tried playing a ball out of my backyard and decided to kick my mini dachsund out of the way. He thought this was a good idea until he met our mut and our Shepard who was a retired police dog and protected the yard.

Paul Nash

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Re: Golf course neighbours
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2010, 02:49:02 PM »
North Hans redesigned the par 3 15th (I think) due to the new houses, which were only built after they sold off part of their land to the developer!

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