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Kyle Henderson

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A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« on: August 21, 2009, 12:36:05 PM »
Panmure is an excellent layout worthy of any visiting golfer’s itinerary. While the first and last few holes occupy a rather flat and featureless plot, the holes away from the clubhouse occupy a stellar “dunescape.” I played the course after a morning round on the fabled links at Carnoustie and was surprised to find that Panmure held its own in such esteemed company.

The following link will lead you to a review of the course authored by resident GCA.com member Gordon Jones:
 http://golfclubatlas.com/in-my-opinion/panmure-golf-club

The layout and scorecard.
http://www.panmuregolfclub.co.uk/course.html

The following images provide another taste of Panmure’s delights. Enjoy.

FYI: My other pictorial threads from this trip can be viewed at the following links:
Royal Dornoch http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40107.0/
Brora http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40120.0/
Golspie http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40126.0/
The Castle Course http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40204.0/
Murcar http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40281.0/
Crail: Craigshead & Balcombie http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40325.0/
Lundin Links http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40387.0/
Muirfield http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40439.0/
Cruden Bay http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40565.0/
Gleneagles - Kings Course http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40675.0/
St. Andrews - Old Course http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40696.0/
Gullane #1 & #2 http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,41085.0/
Panmure http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,41122.0/
Gleneagles - Queens Course http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,41152.0/
Kingsbarns http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,41184.0/
Royal Aberdeen - Balgownie Links http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,41498.0/
Carnoustie – Championship Course http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,41834.0/
North Berwick - West Links http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,42104.0/

*not featured: Nairn, Eden, New, Castle Stuart (tour)

The par 3 5th.


Looking across the 7th fairway to the 6th approach and green


The 6th approach from the left side gunk.


Looking right from the same position where the previous photo was taken, looking over the 6th fairway to the 8th and 9th greens in the distance.


A look back down the 6th to a foursome putting out on the 7th green.


Looking at the right side of the 6th green from the 7th teeing grounds.


The 7th tee shot.


The 7th approach seen from the left-hand hay.


The 8th tee shot plays blind over the aiming pole off the tee, then between or over the two prominent mounds to a flattish green.


I hit a long ball off the tee that found the right rough, leaving a short approach wil no view of the stick (it was behind the right mound). The 6th green is visible to the left in the distance.


Looking back to the 8th tee from behind the green.


A view back to the 8th green from the 9th green.


The 9th tee shot.


A closer look at the front of the 9th green.


This view from the right of the 9th green shows another bunker that is hidden from the tee behind the mound left of the green.


The par 3 11th green is seen on the right (scroll over); the fairway of the par 4 10th is seen on the left.


The 12th hole plays from right of frame to the elevated green pictured across the burn..


Looking back from behind the 12th green, the 12th fairway is seen running in from the left, with the 13th fairway beyond playing on a parallel line from right to left.


The 13th tee shot.


The 13th approach shot.


The 14th tee shot, hard against the o.b. rail line on the right.


The 14th approach


Looking across the 16th green to the majestic clubhouse.


The 18th doglegs to the right around another o.b. area.


A last look at the clubhouse and practice green.


« Last Edit: August 02, 2011, 01:37:20 AM by Kyle Henderson »
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Mark Pearce

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2009, 12:39:12 PM »
It is far too long since I have been to Panmure.  Thanks for these photos, Kyle.  A lovely course.
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Kyle Henderson

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2009, 02:36:02 PM »
It is far too long since I have been to Panmure.  Thanks for these photos, Kyle.  A lovely course.

Judging by your foot note, you have plenty of other courses to savor in the meantime!
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Chris Ord

Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2009, 06:44:22 PM »
the course looks fantastic.  why doesn't it get more recognition?  thanks for the pics, kyle!

G Jones

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2009, 07:42:17 PM »
You may be interested to know that the two hills on the 8th hole are referred to as 'twa paps'.
Even if you don't speak Scots you can probably figure out what that means :-)

Adam Russell

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2009, 08:00:19 PM »
Wonderful pictures Kyle - whenever I've seen shots of Panmure, the place seems to be a great example of just what role texture can play on a golf course. There is a denseness to the native grasses and surrounding in all the pictures that make the course stand out as unique among its neighbors for me, and I'm sure adds to the experience of playing there. Did you get any kind of feeling like that Kyle?
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Brent Carlson

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2009, 02:36:58 AM »
Kyle,

It's amazing how similar the landscape is to Carnoustie; relatively flat with dunescape, and trees as well.  Well done once again.

Rob Rigg

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2009, 03:03:17 AM »
Kyle,

Great pics - the topography looks brilliant with great movement and penal bunkers. Certainly one for the list.

Kyle Henderson

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2009, 12:58:31 AM »
Wonderful pictures Kyle - whenever I've seen shots of Panmure, the place seems to be a great example of just what role texture can play on a golf course. There is a denseness to the native grasses and surrounding in all the pictures that make the course stand out as unique among its neighbors for me, and I'm sure adds to the experience of playing there. Did you get any kind of feeling like that Kyle?

There was a lot of heather in the native areas such that Panmure reminded me of the inland holes at Golspie and the many photos I've seen from English Heathland courses. I can only imagine that the course is absolutely stunning when the heather blooms (in a few weeks from now, if I'm not mistaken).
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Ross Tuddenham

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2009, 07:28:17 AM »
Good pics as usual.

Just wondering but are the entrances to the green quite narrow? In a few of the pics it looks like you would have to run the ball between the dunes.


I have to say the terrain looks like it would produce a very interesting round.

Kyle Henderson

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2009, 12:22:36 AM »
Good pics as usual.

Just wondering but are the entrances to the green quite narrow? In a few of the pics it looks like you would have to run the ball between the dunes.


I have to say the terrain looks like it would produce a very interesting round.

Overall, the greens are fairly open in the front. The terrain is superb, a frolicking series of humps and bumps, with the exception of eveything within about 500 yards of the clubhouse. I played solo in about 3 hours and 10 minutes, but I think Panmure would be an ideal match play type of course.
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John Mayhugh

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2009, 12:39:25 PM »
Thanks for posting these.

How did the early and closing holes play?

Do the trees come into play?

Ben Stephens

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2009, 02:17:48 PM »
Kyle,

Wow great pics for a course in which I am very familar to but not played there for 10 years! I played golf for Dundee University GC 1st team - they held their Scottish/British Universities matches at Panmure from 1996 to 1999. Some of us drove the first green with small metal heads in those days!

The course looks in fanstastic nick. Did anyone know that Ben Hogan suggested a bunker on the right hand side of the green on Hole 6 - it is in a mighty effective position if the flag is behind it. Makes me wonder what kind of GCA Hogan would have been.

We had matches in the winter where the club actually changed the layout/number of the holes - 6 became 12 etc etc.

If you are still in Central Scotland/Tayside Region I suggest you play Dundee Downfield (DUGC Home Club) and Blairgowrie. Pitlochry also comes to mind but may be too far north.

Cheers

Ben



 

Kyle Henderson

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2009, 02:50:38 PM »
Thanks for posting these.

How did the early and closing holes play?

Do the trees come into play?

Those holes are all fairly flat, although #4 has a lot of rumple in the fairway and 15 is a long par 3 (~230 yards) that plays over the corner of an o.b. fence. I believe trees border holes 3, 4, 5,12, 15, and 16, but you have to hit a pretty bad shot to find the forest.
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Gary Slatter

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2009, 03:26:17 PM »
You may be interested to know that the two hills on the 8th hole are referred to as 'twa paps'.
Even if you don't speak Scots you can probably figure out what that means :-)
we played Panmure in July and when we let two members through on the 8th they couldn't wait to tell my wife about the two mounds, we call them the DOLLY PARDONS the one chappie said with a huge smile.
Loved the course, from the first to the last hole it was fun and shouldn't be missed.  You can play it twice and have lunch for the price of 18 next door.
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Kyle Henderson

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2009, 12:47:06 AM »
You may be interested to know that the two hills on the 8th hole are referred to as 'twa paps'.
Even if you don't speak Scots you can probably figure out what that means :-)
we played Panmure in July and when we let two members through on the 8th they couldn't wait to tell my wife about the two mounds, we call them the DOLLY PARDONS the one chappie said with a huge smile.
Loved the course, from the first to the last hole it was fun and shouldn't be missed.  You can play it twice and have lunch for the price of 18 next door.

While Carnoustie (Championship) may be the superior course in the eyes of many, Panmure is definitely more charming. Neither was all that cheap for a visitor, but certainly Carnoustie's tariff is much stiffer.
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Philippe Binette

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2009, 04:04:56 AM »
Panmure: that's my kind of course...

you play the first 3 holes there and go ???? I must be at the wrong course but then... the magic unfolds

Scott Henderson

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2009, 11:32:40 PM »
All I can say is "Well done son!"  All of your course photos on all of your threads are just great!

Ruediger Meyer

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2015, 02:56:04 PM »


The 8th tee shot plays blind over the aiming pole off the tee, then between or over the two prominent mounds to a flattish green.


I hit a long ball off the tee that found the right rough, leaving a short approach wil no view of the stick (it was behind the right mound). The 6th green is visible to the left in the distance.




I played Panmure three weeks ago and I must report that the two mounds aren't there anymore. This is how the 8th looks today:





Kyle Henderson

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2015, 03:15:56 PM »
As Mark Twain once famously penned, "WTF?!"
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Chris Macios

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2015, 05:54:27 PM »
As Mark Twain once famously penned, "WTF?!"


I agree, what a shame! That picture in your original post grabbed my attention immediately and is the one picture among all others that makes/made me want to play Panmure.

Ruediger Meyer

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2015, 02:07:08 AM »
It is still a really, really good golf course from the 4th to the 14th, but when I saw Kyle's pictures it made me sad to have not played it when the two paps were still there.

Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2015, 02:46:12 AM »
I haven't played the course, but this strikes me as pure vandalism  ???   :'(
 
It looks like the work was done in October 2012 by Mackenzie & Ebert: "Reshaping of man made dunes on 8th hole"
 
http://www.mackenzieandebert.co.uk/Downloads/M&E/Mackenzie%20and%20Ebert%202012%20Review.pdf
 
Note: the pdf is 35 MB.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2015, 02:55:30 AM by Dónal Ó Ceallaigh »

Mark Pearce

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2015, 03:35:18 AM »
Reshaping?  Got to give them kudos for understatement.  I'm with you, my first thought was that this was vandalism.
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Ruediger Meyer

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Re: A Pictorial: Panmure!!!
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2015, 03:37:31 AM »
Thanks Dónal,

Interesting choice of words "man made dunes". Does this mean someone shoveled up those two mounds hundred years ago?