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Bill Gayne

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Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« on: July 10, 2009, 09:55:32 PM »


It's from PGA National Ireland
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Garland Bayley

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 12:58:40 PM »
Quote from: Bill Gayne on July 10, 2009, 09:55:32 PM


It's from PGA National Ireland

What? They couldn't afford water?
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Padraig Dooley

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 01:33:53 PM »
The course is designed by Christy O'Connor Jr.. It's just outside Dublin. I've never played it. The photograph of that hole, a par 3 (I think), was used is most of the promotional material on the course.
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David Stamm

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2009, 01:57:06 PM »
Quote from: Bill Gayne on July 10, 2009, 09:55:32 PM


It's from PGA National Ireland


I like O'Connor's personality, but this looks hideous. :(
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Dan_Callahan

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2009, 02:49:44 PM »
Reminds me of this green site at Taconic, except that the Stiles/Van Kleek version is infinitely better:

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Jim Thompson

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2009, 03:25:23 PM »
It seems rather obvious that Christy has never talked with a Super about pinch points and turf.  Forget the aesthetic for a moment and think about traffic, both human and equipment.  pitty...
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Evan Fleisher

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2009, 09:31:35 PM »
Quote from: Bill Gayne on July 10, 2009, 09:55:32 PM


It's from PGA National Ireland

Which greens on the course represent the other three card symbols?  ::)
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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2009, 04:56:56 AM »
It is the 10th hole on the PGA National which is a Christy O'Connor design from about 2002...

If there is one course that epitomises the brashness of Ireland's Celtic Tiger years, then this is it...
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Chris DeNigris

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2009, 07:43:18 AM »
Anyone have a ground level view? Might look a lot different/better. Sometimes aerials really look goofy.
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Jack_Marr

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2009, 02:56:56 AM »
I've played PGA National. They spent a lot of money cramming in water features etc.

I like O'Connor designs, like Esker Hills and Headfort New, but I didn't like this one. It was built so a questionable businessman could sell property around it for outrageous prices.

I believe they're trying to swap their course for Newlands, another course in Dublin.
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Brian_Ewen

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2009, 03:43:03 AM »
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Doug Ralston

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2009, 09:32:37 AM »
At least he left it open in front so you could run it up ...................  :D

Why not finish the job, build a sand mote?

Doug
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Jack_Marr

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2009, 02:33:41 PM »
Greenfees for this course were 130 euro, but are now half that. It's approaching the correct price point.

A lot of Irish golfers will love this kind of course, but it's not for me.
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Aidan Bradley

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2009, 03:03:43 PM »
Here is a green side shot of the hole in question #10





and a few others for giggles......











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Matt MacIver

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2009, 08:51:38 PM »
What's the distance on this hole?  If it's sub-150 yards I can imagine Dye building something like that at #17 Sawgrass before Alice talked him into the watery surround.
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Anthony Butler

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2009, 12:24:23 AM »
Quote from: Aidan Bradley on July 22, 2009, 03:03:43 PM
Here is a green side shot of the hole in question #10





Looks very similar to some of the high-end golf courses you see in China etc... i.e. Like a Disney version of a golf course.
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Jack_Marr

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Re: Anybody play this hole or know anything about it?
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2009, 02:09:49 AM »
I think Nicklaus was originally penned in to design this course, but something happened.

The person who owns it is, eh, well, he used to be involved in dodgey stuff. Eventually made a lot of money by buying up all the old infrastructure and damaged tanks etc left over from the Falklands war. An interesting character.
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