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Brad Swanson

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Help!  What type of grass on ANGC? greens
« on: May 15, 2002, 10:39:38 PM »
Can anyone out there help settle an ongoing argument on another golf discussion group.  What type of grass are the greens at ANGC seeded with for the Masters?  Bermuda?, Rye?   ???


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Brad Swanson
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Kevin_Reilly

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Re: Help!  What type of grass on ANGC? greens
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2002, 10:43:54 PM »
They were changed from Bermuda to Bentgrass in '81 I believe.
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BCrosby

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Re: Help!  What type of grass on ANGC? greens
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2002, 06:03:05 AM »
Greens have been bent since '81 or '82.

The fairways are rye.  There is no Bermuda on the course.

Bob  
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Robert "Cliff" Stanfield

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Re: Help!  What type of grass on ANGC? greens
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2002, 06:14:34 AM »
I received this info from a source that was employed during the early eighties.  He said that there are five different types of grass on the greens.  The entire 18 used to be penncross and now only one is still remainig with penncross. Also on the greens L93 blend I beleive and some Gn varieties.  I will have to check into the varieties of bent there.  I just thought it was interesting that the greens are not all the same.
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Kevin Smith

Re: Help!  What type of grass on ANGC? greens
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2002, 09:49:02 AM »
While I don't have any inside info as to the maint. operation at ANGC, I will share a couple of thoughts from the standpoint of a "turf guy".  First, there most definitely is a bermudagrass foundation that the ryegrass seed is sown into each fall.  I have quite a bit of overseeding experience from the desert and can tell you that virtually all outstanding winter overseeded playing surfaces have an exquisite bermudagrass surface below to provide a desirable level of cushion and resiliency.  Furthermore, I was quite surprised when I attended The Masters in that the ryegrass overseeding rates appeared to be substantially less than what I was accustomed to in the southwest.  My estimate was that ANGC was seeding in the 600-650 pound per acre range whereas many of the more famous (or infamous) desert facilities are upwards of 800-1,000 pounds.  I think in some instances we have taken the "Masters" effect and allowed it to run amok in the greenkeeping profession.

Secondly, the putting surfaces are indeed bentgrass.  Interestingly, some of the germplasm used to develop the new Penn varieties (e.g Penn A-1, A-2, A-4, G-1, and G-6) was selected from portions of the mature greens at ANGC that exhibited finer texture, improved heat tolerance, deeper rooting etc.  I believe those greens were originally Penncross but, for lack of a better phrase, had genetically adapted to the climate, close mowing and general demands of a championship caliber maintenance regimen.  Goes to show that it typically isn't the type of turf that determines the quality of a playing surface but the man (or woman) managing the details.  
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CGCS2b

Re: Help!  What type of grass on ANGC? greens
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2002, 03:52:11 PM »
Some of the paperwork I have indicates the A and the G series both have been cloned from AGNC.  The A's came from the 18 hole course that were seeded to Penncross.  The G's came from the par three course that were seeded to Penneagle.

Dave S
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