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George Freeman

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Re: Detroit area clubs info
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2009, 11:55:05 AM »
There are so many architecturally middling clubs around Detroit which are nice, but in no way distinguished.  Among those, and some are very pricey considering the quality of the golf, I would include:

Orchard Lake
Bloomfield Hills
Birmingham
CC of Detroit (like all the east side clubs is way over-rated) - AGREED

Orchard Lake is in a different class as the layouts of BHCC or BCC. CCD is a very nice course, with a very nice club but built (very well) on a totally flat piece of land and with what they had to work with Colt/Allison did a great job (again with what they had to work with). A for OLCC, the layout is very strong with much better land and elevation changes to work with. 1 is a tough opener (probably would be easier if later in round) and 9 and 18 are ok (good birdie opportunities). The par 3's are good on front (7 in particular, while 3 is ok with tough green) on the back 13 is solid and 16 is a wonderful one-shotter. I would agree the par 5's are ok as a whole. I would challenge anyone to find a better 3 hole stretch (in the spirit of the recent LINKS feature) than 15, 16, 17 in the Detroit Metro area. 15 is an awesome 450 yard par 4 (best hole on course with challenging green), 16 is an excellent mid length par 3 and 17 is a birdie opportunity with a very exposed elevated green (short but deadly). Having had the pleasure to play all the area courses in Detroit on several occasions OLCC is as much fun to play as any, conditions and setting second to none and the club is top notch. OHCC, FHCC, Indianwood are also very special places. BHCC is a great club with an ok course.

I too really enjoyed Orchard Lake CC, and agree that the 15-17 stretch is a good one (as is most of the rest of the course).  However my hands down favorite hole on the course was the par 4 eighth.  It has large multiple hog backs in the fairway feeding poorly struck drives to the left of the fairway, which creates an awkward angle into a thin green over the left green side bunkers.  The movement of the hole and the green placement are what really struck me as great.  Hard to put into words, but if someone has some pictures please post them.  Great hole!
Mayhugh is my hero!!

"I love creating great golf courses.  I love shaping earth...it's a canvas." - Donald J. Trump

Niall Hay

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Re: Detroit area clubs info
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2009, 01:55:02 PM »
George, you are absolutely right. # 8 is the "signature" hole and as good as any. It is stunning with the willows down the left side. The hole is so good I have heard several people (members) say they want "their ashes scattered" over that hole when the time is right.  Great shallow/narrow green too. Awesome and truly memorable hole.

David Neveux

Re: Detroit area clubs info
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2009, 02:25:25 PM »
A couple comments from this guys perspective, of the ones I've played. 

Franklin Hills - Is a wonderful Ross course, but it has been pointed it that it's not only a "Jewish" club, but one that is quite exclusive.  It has been mentioned that it "flys under the radar, and thats the way they like it" that couldn't be more true.  Cross that off your list. 

CCD -  I grew up in Grosse Pointe, my parents still live there, I've played Oakland Hills and Franklin Hills and still have not had the pleasure to play here.  It's a very blue blooded membership, a lot of old money and equally as exclusive as Oakland / Franklin.  Cross that off the list.  A close friend recently told me that the health of the greens has and is a VERY SERIOUS ISSUE, BUYER BEWARE. 

DGC - Although I know many locals who absolutely love this place, I was very unwhelmed.  I played the "championship" course, and felt that it had lost a lot of original design intent when they tried to stretch it and It just seemed like the course wasn't comfortable in it's own skin if that makes sense (I'm sure it doesn't)  I've heard good things about it's sister course, but can't comment.  My parents are members at Lochmoor in Grosse Pointe, and I couldn't believe there was a course in the area as FLAT, but alas DGC was every bit of that.  Wouldn't recommend. 

Lochmoor Club - Like I said, my parents are members and I grew up playing here.  A very tight, tree lined (too death!!!  in need of some major cut-back) but usually in good shape.  Very flat.  Greens are small and rather dull for the most part, but a good membership and I understand they are offering some great deals, particularly if you're under 30.  If your brother is married with kids they have an excellent swim program and great tennis / workout facilities.  Its also very close to Wayne State and in a wonderful neighboorhood.  They've recently paid off all of there outstanding debt, which in these times, is a definite PLUS!!!!!

Birmingham CC - I really like this golf course a lot.  Plenty of elevation, good conditioning and fairly interesting putting surfaces.  Would definitely reccomend from a pure golf standpoint.

Plum Hollow - I pretty sure I played here in the Buick Scramble several years back, remember enjoying it.  I think they were really cutting back some trees, but I think that had more to do with disease than anything.

Red Run - Have not played but have friends who are members.  They really like it here, and It's relatively close. 

Indianwood - It's not relatively close but the OLD is AWESOME, and so is the clubhouse.  I've played once and plan on returning this year.  George is right, the NEW is the exact opposite of the old, which albeit maybe a negative to some, variety is also nice, as is the ability to probably land a tee time nearly anytime. 

I cannot see Essex in Windsor worth the hassle of crossing International Border (although I hear the golf course is wonderful) and you definitely need a passport now. 

My final recommendation is tell your brother to contact these clubs, most of them if not all will have a membership director.  HE CAN PROBABLY TOUR / PLAY NEARLY ANY OF THESE CLUBS AT NO COST AND THAT SHOULD DEFINITELY HELP MAKE HIS DECISION (plus if you're in the area you can certainly piggyback!!!!).  I don't think pictures, even on this website are adequate enough to make a final decision.  Not to mention, once he's in at these clubs, he should have no problem setting up the occasional game / round at most if not all of these other clubs via his head pro.  Just my two sense, let me know what he decides.  I plan on eventually moving back to the area (doesn't seem so desirable at the moment but hey, there are some great deals to be had on the private side right now) and will be interested to know his impression of the process. 

Nev

P.S.  LOCATION SHOULD BE A MAJOR FACTOR, GO WITH SOMETHING CLOSE TO HOME.

Niall Hay

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Re: Detroit area clubs info
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2009, 02:37:26 PM »
CCD greens were REALLY is bad shape last year and were the "new" bunkers. Spoke with someone there last night and apparently the greens are growing in better thus far this year. They were very close to completely losing several towards the end of last season.

Kyle Christensen

Re: Detroit area clubs info
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2009, 02:45:45 PM »
David, Thanks for the insight. He has started contacting membership directors about the opportunities at these clubs. My brother will only be 24 so defiantly will be able to find good junior deals in the area. He is a very thorough person so playing the courses beforehand is key as well as the club's atmosphere. I think right now he is interested in DGC because of having 36 holes at his disposal and their current rates for under 30 are very reasonable. Also sounds like he is very interested in hearing more about Plum Hollow. He isn't sure where he is going to be living at this point, but proximity to the club will be a huge factor. Thanks again for the help everyone.

Kyle

Niall Hay

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Re: Detroit area clubs info
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2009, 02:51:04 PM »
Royal Oak and Red Run would be good fits for a 24 year old that is new to town.

Deucie Bies

Re: Detroit area clubs info
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2009, 03:36:42 PM »
I grew up playing at Dearborn Country Club.  I still know members there and they have told me that things have changed significantly due to the economy and the situation of the automotive companies.  They are desparately looking for members.  I can't speak about the club as it is currently, but it was a great place to grow up playing.  The membership was very good, the golf course was always in excellent shape (if Fred Green is still the superintendant, I would be shocked if it is still not in good shape) and there was a swim team and junior golf program.  If you are making your decision based solely on golf course architecture, I would probably recommend looking at some of the other clubs mentioned.  Dearborn CC was a Ross design, but I don't think much, if any, of his original design exists.  The greens are huge.  Also, the course is very short, but pretty narrow.  Good luck with the search. 

If I were 24 and looking for a place to live/join, I think Niall's suggestion of Royal Oak and Red Run would be perfect.

Brent Carlson

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Re: Detroit area clubs info
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2009, 12:05:59 AM »
What a bunch of great answers these guys know what they're talking about.  When you visit your brother make sure you get in a round at the Mackenzie course at U-M in Ann Arbor.

I also recommend checking out Detroit Golf Club.  Flattish land with fun greens.  The South is basically untouched Ross.

Andy Silis

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Re: Detroit area clubs info
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2009, 08:19:14 AM »
Niall;

It is a Willie Park Jr......I spaced when I typed my response.

Thanks for the catch and correction.

Andy

Niall Hay

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Re: Detroit area clubs info
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2009, 10:41:47 AM »
What a bunch of great answers these guys know what they're talking about.  When you visit your brother make sure you get in a round at the Mackenzie course at U-M in Ann Arbor.

I also recommend checking out Detroit Golf Club.  Flattish land with fun greens.  The South is basically untouched Ross.

Radrick Farms (Dye) and Barton Hills (Ross) are also good in Ann Arbor.

Niall Hay

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Re: Detroit area clubs info
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2009, 10:43:09 AM »
Niall;

It is a Willie Park Jr......I spaced when I typed my response.

Thanks for the catch and correction.

Andy

"Red Run is really a terrific course.  It is a Willie Park Jr. design, which is pointed out
in a plaque outside the clubhouse.

Willie Park Jr., left quite a legacy with  his work in Europe and then America.  He left
his beloved Scotland after World War I slowed golf course development. True, a lot of
bunkers were being dug during that time, but most had soldiers in them. He built over 70
golf courses in Canada and the U.S., with four of them in Michigan. He was a two time
winner of The Open, now the British Open,  and designed over 160 golf courses. In
addition, he wrote the first book on golf by a professional, "The Game of
Golf".
His most noted works include two golf courses in Golf Digest's Top 100 courses; No. 24
Olympic Fields in Illinois and No. 56 Maidstone Club  in East Hampton  N.Y.  In Canada, he
landed four in the Top 50, Weston Golf & Country Club in Weston Ontario, Calgary Golf &
Country Club in Calgary, Ottawa Hunt And Country Club in Ottawa and Beaconsfield Golf &
Country Club in  Beaconsfield, Quebec.

In Michigan his work include, the Flint Golf Club in 1910, Red Run in 1914, Meadowbrook CC
in 1916 and Pine Lake GC in 1921. They are all special with Red Run and Meadowbrook still
hosting major Michigan tournaments", from Michigan Golf.
 

Deucie Bies

Re: Detroit area clubs info
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2009, 11:10:56 AM »
What a bunch of great answers these guys know what they're talking about.  When you visit your brother make sure you get in a round at the Mackenzie course at U-M in Ann Arbor.

I also recommend checking out Detroit Golf Club.  Flattish land with fun greens.  The South is basically untouched Ross.

Radrick Farms (Dye) and Barton Hills (Ross) are also good in Ann Arbor.

I believe you have to be a Michigan alum to have playing privileges at Radrick.  And I also think there is a long waiting list to buy an annual pass.  It is my favorite course in the Ann Arbor area and definitely worth playing.  As for Barton Hills, I have played it many times while growing up and never really cared for the course until the last 2 or 3 times that I played there.  However, last I heard, it is still quite expensive to join.

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