[Ed Oden]

I haven't seen one bigger than this...







Any others?

Ed

[Anthony Fowler]

13 at Torrey Pines.

[ed_getka]

Interesting. I wonder if it was designed that way. It looks more like they mowed way down the hill. It seems kind of counterproductive to have such a big "false front".

[DMoriarty]

With that subject heading, I can just imagine the responses you are going to get tomorrow.

What comes just before that false front, to the left of the frame?

[Tom Jefferson]

Ed Getka;  The double set of irrigation heads at the front right corner suggests to me that the green was designed to be right where it is, instead of merely lengthening the mowing pattern over time.

The largest false front to my knowledge is the 5th at Eagle Point Golf Club in southern Oregon (RTJ2, 1995), which is probably a bit shorter in both length as well as height to the one shown, and slightly steeper.

[J_ Crisham]

The 9th at Augusta National is perhaps as severe as any false front in golf. The mistake of leaving it on the shoort side can result in a 40-50 pitch back up to the green. I recall Norman having this issue during his epic collappse in 1996. The 5th at Beverly has a severe false front as does the 3rd at OFCC north. Very easy to spin one off these greens.   
                                                                          Jack

[Cliff Hamm]

Ed...your picture looks very similar to the 4th at Shennecossett.  That is a volcano, par 3 designed by Ross.  A volcano hole by definition would need a false front, but is it technically a false front when the hole essentially is an island in the sky?

[Adam Clayman]

I'm a fan of smaller False fronts. This just doest seem to fit the typical bill.

Jack's new course outside Vegas, Coyote SPrings has a very well done one, on the 14th hole there.

[Philippe Binette]

The 8th on the Eden Course (or is it the 5th) Par 3, the entire green is a false front it seems...

Sand Hills par 3 12th is about as big and as severe as I've seen

[Mike_Cirba]

Biggest I've seen is at Cassique in Kiawah...I'd have to look up the hole number..it may have been the 9th.

[Adam Clayman]

Mike, How about the 17th @ Bayonne?

[Mike_Cirba]

Adam

That's a biggie too! 

Cassique stands out as almost purposefully comical and playful however,

[Kalen Braley]

Those pics remind me of a few Engh greens I've seen.  Except they had pinnable areas down on the front.

[Adam_Messix]

Is that 11 at the CC of Charleston?   That redan has a massive false front and REALLY deep bunkers on both side.  The 9th at Cassique has a major false front too and it's a par 4 that played really long the day we visited a few years back. 

[Adam Clayman]

This might becoming a term that is gaining in it's mis-use.
 To me, many of the fronts that are being called False, are not.

i.e. the 4th at Ballyneal. There is nothing false about that front.

One definition I'd throw out as being more accurate involves some type of deception. When the hill causing the effect is so massive, there's just noting deceptive about it. i.e. A more subtle form of the FF can be found on the 11th at Pacific Grove. It's virtually undetectable from afar, until the golfer is close enough to see higher grade slope.

[Gib_Papazian]

Aside from Pamela Anderson, the biggest false front I have ever seen is the 5th hole at Shadow Creek. Anything a tick short on the right side of the green complex is rudely dispatched to the bottom of the Chutes and Ladders board.

For those of you without children, look it up on Google.

[Tom_Doak]

I'm on record as not being a big fan of the big false fronts.

That one at CC of Charleston has been signficantly modified, hasn't it?  Is the picture before or after the remodel?

There were a couple of them at Dismal River which were ridiculously severe.

[Anthony_Nysse]

I'm on record as not being a big fan of the big false fronts.

That one at CC of Charleston has been signficantly modified, hasn't it?  Is the picture before or after the remodel?

There were a couple of them at Dismal River which were ridiculously severe.

Nope,
  The entire false front was springged with Champion...it's a lot of wasted green, but looks really cool. The Lions mouth (#16 I think) also has 2 serious false fronts.

Tony Nysse
Asst. Supt.
Colonial CC
Ft. Worth, TX

[Anthony_Nysse]

Those pics remind me of a few Engh greens I've seen.  Except they had pinnable areas down on the front.

#9 at Reynolds plantation?

[Adam_Messix]

Tom D--

I was at the Country Club of Charleston last week and don't think the false front has been softened that much.  There's not quite as much left to right in the green and the two bunkers are not quite as deep as I remembered them. 

[Ben Stephens]

14th at Cavendish! - Massive false front!

[Kalen Braley]

Those pics remind me of a few Engh greens I've seen.  Except they had pinnable areas down on the front.

#9 at Reynolds plantation?

The ones I were thinking of are #8 at Sanctuary and #5 at Redlands Mesa.  They are otherwise known as the tongue greens.  Both very cool and unique IMO but if you were on the wrong level you sure had a fun putt! 

[Ed Oden]

Adam, you are correct, it is the 11th at CC of Charleston.  Did you play in the Azalea?

Tom, the pictures were taken last Saturday.  I only played the course one time before the remodel.  But I don't recall the front of the green being much different.  I think the changes were more to the back edge of the green to create a redan-like bank.

Ed 

[Tim Gavrich]

Biggest one I've sen is the 17th green at Tot Hill Farm, I reckon.

Cliff--

Good call on #4 at Shennecossett.  Heck, no mater where you're attacking that green from, you're confronting a false edge!  It's one of the toughest par 3s I've ever seen.

[John Moore II]

Biggest one I've sen is the 17th green at Tot Hill Farm, I reckon.

Cliff--

Good call on #4 at Shennecossett.  Heck, no mater where you're attacking that green from, you're confronting a false edge!  It's one of the toughest par 3s I've ever seen.

I actually think the false front on #9 at Tot Hill might be bigger, certainly more penal. A little short on 17 rolls back maybe 10 yards. With the conditions really fast in the fairways, I could honestly see that front on 9 rolling the ball back 100 yards.

Those are the largest ones I can think of, though the most intimidating one was #13 at Forest Creek. Its a fairly large false front, but with the greens playing crazy quick and hard as bricks when I was there (plus the pin was cut about 3 feet behind the drop off) a shot with even the least bit too much spin would have rolled back 30 yards leaving a stupid hard chip.

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