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Bob_Huntley

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CPC and the Nematode Problem
« on: December 21, 2008, 11:32:36 PM »
I played Cypress yesterday morning in 52 degree weather and the bluest sky without a cloud in sight. There was a not a jot of wind and I have never, ever, seen the course in better condition.

The greens which had been ravaged by a nematode infestation in recent years seems to have been arrested by new fungicides.

The greens were running at speeds I have not seen since the California State Amateur of a year ago at MPCC, somewhere in the range of thirteen on the stimp.

It was a day to remember.

Bob


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Matt_Cohn

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2008, 11:39:10 PM »
sounds incredible. do you know anything about the fungicide? i assume if they can use it that close to the coast then it's not too toxic?
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Tom Naccarato

Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2008, 11:45:43 PM »
Bob,
Great news!

Hopefully this will stave off further problems with the Faziotode and Marzloffoid fungus' that were planning on attacking CPC......
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Bob_Huntley

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2008, 11:48:15 PM »
Matt and Tom,

I'll ask some questions and hopefully be able to reply in a sensible fashion.

Bob
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Joe Perches

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2008, 12:18:04 AM »
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Jed Peters

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2008, 12:48:37 AM »
Bob,

Good to hear.

Jed

(insert inane smiley emoticon here)
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Matt_Cohn

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2008, 12:54:44 AM »
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Joe Perches

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2008, 01:01:08 AM »
Quote from: Matt_Cohn on December 22, 2008, 12:54:44 AM
[umm....so does that thing mean it worked? lol

I'd hazard yes.
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Kyle Henderson

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2008, 02:53:21 AM »
Quote from: Joe Perches on December 22, 2008, 12:18:04 AM
http://www.californiagcsa.org/2007%20final%20report%20anguina%20pacificae%20efficacy%20trial%20cpc.pdf

As much as I love this topic, I wouldn't read that, shall I say, "exquisitely detailed"  report at gun point. Synopsis anyone?
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Matt_Cohn

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2008, 02:57:42 AM »
Quote from: Kyle Henderson on December 22, 2008, 02:53:21 AM
Quote from: Joe Perches on December 22, 2008, 12:18:04 AM
http://www.californiagcsa.org/2007%20final%20report%20anguina%20pacificae%20efficacy%20trial%20cpc.pdf

As much as I love this topic, I wouldn't read that, shall I say, "exquisitely detailed"  report at gun point. Synopsis anyone?

b4: bugs.
aftr: bugs ded.
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paul cowley

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2008, 05:55:07 AM »
Neemix/Trilogy had the best results controlling the surface nematode problem....but should be used with others to help control the sub surface population.

Multiple types of nematodes combine to do the most damage.
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Rich Goodale

Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2008, 06:39:08 AM »
I looked up that Nematode guy on ghin.com and he hasn't posted scores for at least two years.  The problem must have been solved.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2008, 09:34:27 AM »
Bob:  If it's true that the club has found a good control mechanism for nematodes, that's great news not only for Cypress Point, but for all the courses in San Francisco and on the Monterey Peninsula.  They have all been rebuilding greens to battle this problem.

I hope it holds up, but keep in mind that nematodes are a cyclical problem ... a new generation attacks every four months, but the turf can sometimes be quite good in between.
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PThomas

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2008, 09:51:11 AM »
i hereby humbly offer to monitor the playing surfaces through on-course testing in real time conditions whenever the club deems necessary ;)
« Last Edit: December 22, 2008, 09:54:47 AM by Paul Thomas »
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David Stamm

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2008, 09:52:39 AM »
Great news Bob! I hope this will be enough to without resorting to more drastic measures.
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Tim Bert

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2008, 10:58:30 AM »
13!!!  Now that is a scary thought.
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Mark_Fine

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2008, 11:07:16 AM »
I recently sat through a very detailed talk on nematodes and unfortunately I don't think there are any new solutions out there (or on the way).  Furthermore, the only treatment that seems to have had any positive impact is going away.  Though it is not an exact science, I wonder what the nematode counts are running out there on the greens right now?  I'm sure they are being charted.  #17 was really under duress last time I was out in June.  I'm back out in mid January and it will be interesting to see the difference and to find out why?
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paul cowley

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2008, 11:11:32 AM »
Mark.....read the link, its quite in depth and it seems you have an interest, but yes, they are being charted in test plots on Cypress.
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RDecker

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2008, 02:42:49 PM »
The best pesticide for controlling Nematodes was a product called "Nemacure" that the EPA recently took off the market.
If you were smart enough to plan in advance you could lay in a supply of the stuff and they can't take it away otherwise no more is available.
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Mike Nuzzo

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2008, 03:04:57 PM »

Without wind and those green speeds could you hold the 16th green Bob?

Holiday Cheers
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Kyle Henderson

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2008, 03:07:50 PM »
I'll be happy to spend the next few decade cleaning out the nematodes by hand with a microscope and tweezers in exchange for playing privileges... ;D
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Michael Wharton-Palmer

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2008, 04:08:00 PM »
Oh Bob...How I envy your difficult lifestyle and habitat.
Hope to see you out there next year Happy Holidays......

oh..and to stay on topic...nasty nematodes stay away!
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Joe Perches

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Re: CPC and the Nematode Problem
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2008, 09:33:11 PM »
Quote from: Bob_Huntley on December 21, 2008, 11:48:15 PM
I'll ask some questions and hopefully be able to reply in a sensible fashion.

Might you have any new information to share?

Do you know if there are multiple efforts being made
or is all work being handled through Mr Mahady?
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