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Kyle Henderson

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Golf Architect All-Star Team
« on: October 13, 2008, 04:03:25 PM »
Select your single, favorite architect for each position. Please provide one or more examples from their body of work to support your selection.

Rules:
-No architect can play more than one role.
-Only 3 associate designers can be selected from any given design firm, even if they didn't always work together (e.g. Colt, MacKenzie, Allison).
-Architect can be live or deceased.


Roles:
Project/Site Selection - Which architect most consistently sought and landed jobs on premium sites?

Routing - Which architect got the most out of the existing site features?

Hazard placement - Which architect was the best at fine-tuning the location and influence of playing obstacles during course construction?

Maintenance - Which architect produced courses that can be maintained relatively cheaply, consistently, and/or easily by superintendents in a manner that showcases their design?

Variety - Which architect is the most able to create superb designs features with divergent characteristics and styles from course to course?

Ingenuity - Which architect is the best at solving drainage, permitting issues (etc.) without sacrificing (perhaps even improving) course quality?

Inventiveness - Which architect is the most inventive/creative with regard to fresh design concepts?

Restoration - Which architect is most able to bring a fading classic back to its original, glorious state?

Redesign/renovation: Which architect most effectively improves upon existing courses, from subtle modifications to complete overhauls?

Emulation: Which architect most convincingly (and intentionally) imitates the style of other architects during the creation or new, “original” courses?

Stategy: Who consistently presents the best tests of a player’s decision-making faculties?

Green shaping- Who creates surfaces that are the most fun to putt on while also providing the finest strategic elements for approaches?

Aethetics- Who creates the most beautiful finished products?


Have fun!!!
« Last Edit: October 13, 2008, 04:24:50 PM by Kyle Henderson »
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Adam Sherer

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Re: Golf Architect All-Star Team
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2008, 10:34:44 PM »
Kyle,

Apparently nobody wants to touch this topic....so let me be the first.

Project/Site Selection: Coore and Crenshaw (they started the whole "middle of nowhere" thing)

Routing: Fowler (Eastward Ho!, need I say more?)

Hazard Placement: Ol' Tom Morris (vis a vis Ol' Mother Nature)

Maintenance: RTJ Sr (this isn't necessarily an accolade)

Variety: Flynn (lets not get started on a "course list" debate but it is impressive and varied)

Ingenuity: weird category, but as an engineer by trade - Raynor maybe? (Lido, Yale? muck and rock?)

Inventiveness: Pete Dye

Restoration: Gil Hanse or Keith Foster (Sleepy Hollow or Eastward Ho!)

Redesign: either Emmet or Travis (considering that between the two of them they redid some of the great courses of the golden age)

Emulation: C.B. Macdonald (isn't NGLA the perfect emulative example?)

Strategy: Ross ("the closer to danger, the further from harm")

Green Shaping: MacKenzie (Mickey Mouse putting greens!)

Aesthetics: Fazio



Second team All Star:

A.W. Tillinghast (Catcher)

Colt, Allison, & Crump (Linebackers)

George Thomas (Right Wing)







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Phil McDade

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Re: Golf Architect All-Star Team
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2008, 10:44:02 PM »


Ingenuity: weird category, but as an engineer by trade - Raynor maybe? (Lido, Yale? muck and rock?)


Ingenuity: Langford and Moreau, architects of Lawsonia, among others. Ron Forse has talked extensively about Langford's exacting and precise measurements for the fill he used for his enormously built-up greens, and then how he angled and directed terrain around those greens for optimal drainage. Langford was a civil engineer by trade; Moreau his contractor.


Ian Andrew

Re: Golf Architect All-Star Team New
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2008, 12:07:51 AM »
I'll only pick dead guys (for obvious reasons)

Project/Site Selection - Which architect most consistently sought and landed jobs on premium sites? MacDonald and Raynor - did anyone get better sites?

Routing - Which architect got the most out of the existing site features?
Alister MacKenzie - seemed to have the most great projects of any great architect - it begins with the routing

Hazard placement - Which architect was the best at fine-tuning the location and influence of playing obstacles during course construction? Donald Ross

Maintenance - Which architect produced courses that can be maintained relatively cheaply, consistently, and/or easily by superintendents in a manner that showcases their design? Donald Ross - nobody did more with less

Variety - Which architect is the most able to create superb designs features with divergent characteristics and styles from course to course? AW Tillinghast - lots of different styles throughout his career and an incredible body of work

Ingenuity - Which architect is the best at solving drainage, permitting issues (etc.) without sacrificing (perhaps even improving) course quality? Donald Ross - the drainage swales at Essex are a brilliant way to create drainage and provide relief to a flat site

Inventiveness - Which architect is the most inventive/creative with regard to fresh design concepts? Alister MacKenzie - so many clever holes - so much fun to play

Restoration - Which architect is most able to bring a fading classic back to its original, glorious state? there's about five guys that I look up to in this area

Redesign/renovation: Which architect most effectively improves upon existing courses, from subtle modifications to complete overhauls? Harry Colt - one of the few that would keep what worked and could solve what didn't

Emulation: Which architect most convincingly (and intentionally) imitates the style of other architects during the creation or new, “original” courses? Seth Raynor - made a career of imitation - but could go a step beyond too

Stategy: Who consistently presents the best tests of a player’s decision-making faculties? Alister Mackenzie

Green shaping- Who creates surfaces that are the most fun to putt on while also providing the finest strategic elements for approaches? Perry Maxwell - nobody even close - his interior contouring is the finest the game has ever seen

Aethetics- Who creates the most beautiful finished products? Alister Mackenzie - just look at courses like Cypress Point - art or architecture - the lines are so beautifully blurred
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