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johnk

New way to use GPS
« on: July 05, 2002, 04:14:12 PM »

People experienced with using GPS in designing and
building courses may already be doing stuff like this,
but the following site gave me an idea of a cool way to
map a course:

www.gpsdrawing.com

Basically, they are visualizing GPS tracks to draw pictures.  These are 3-D pictures as well.

Here's the cheap way to record your course's design:

1. Buy 18 GPS receivers
2. Train 18 monkeys (or friends of yours)
3. Have them walk the course in a set fashion (i.e.
around the perimeter of bunkers, around tees, down
the fairway center, down the cut lines, etc.
4. Use the tool to visualize what you've got.

I bet that those that design computer courses
for games would be a great group to pioneer this
type of usage of GPS.

The difference, I'm guessing between this ad hoc
use and the surveying is that this could be a lot
less expensive, and be easy to do on courses that
are already playable.

Would any architect (Jeremy G?) care to comment?
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re: New way to use GPS
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2002, 08:09:49 AM »
John,

We have used GPS in similar ways.  I documented the use in my running series over on Cybergolf for my new Quarry Course,  in Biwabik, MN.

While we didn't use GPS to topo the ground to start, nor did we used trained monkeys, if we ran into a problem where our topos were clearly off, the contractor walked the proposed fairway edges, etc. to give us true topo to adjust our design on plan.

In most cases, they simply compared our plans to actual topos and had stakes set in the field when I arrived.  It was easy to tell if a tee would require too much fill, or if we needed more cut somewhere else.  OUr computers talked with their computers, so by looking at a screen in the field, we could compare our maps existing topo, actual topo, proposed grades, and any releative differences (ie - our plan showed fill 6 feet in one spot, but actual was fill 24 feet - so we knew we had a problem)

The net result was that Park Construction was able to do the final field adjustments under my direction, rather than move earth once, let me look at it, and move it around again for me to look at again.  After I saw the basic shaping, they would email photos so I could monitor progress from my computer - unless I was on GCA at the time!

Overall, I think technology will greatly assist us as arhcitects in building more site sensitive courses, and building them faster to keep costs down.
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Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

Slag_Bandoon

Re: New way to use GPS
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2002, 04:29:31 PM »
Interesting.  
  Here's another notion of using technology...

    You know those invisible fences that keep dogs in the yard by giving them a little zorch when they stray across the perimeter?  Put those on the scraper and dozer operators.   Might keep the environmentalists happy (but not the SPCA).  

   Seriously, they don't have to zap the op, maybe just light up a warning light.
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Mike_Young

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Re: New way to use GPS
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2002, 06:41:51 PM »
Slag,
You laugh but Toro has experimented with the "dog collar" system for cutting fairways, greens etc.  It just takes placing wires in the ground for the mowers to follow on a specific day.  You switch on the pattern you want for that day and let the mower follow.
Mike
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"just standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona"

Brian Phillips

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Re: New way to use GPS
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2002, 03:12:43 AM »
Mike,

Isn't that a perfect solution to forcing the Super. to follow your intended design principles!!  The Super. gets zapped when he strays from your original seeding lines.

Brian
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Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf