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David Druzisky

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Annika Sorenstam design?
« on: July 14, 2008, 02:08:56 PM »
I just saw an article on a new proposed course that identified Annika Sorenstam as the course designer.  Does anyone know who is doing her design work?  I know the Mission Hills project in China was through Schmidt & Curley, but what about her other stuff?

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Craig Van Egmond

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Re: Annika Sorenstam design?
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2008, 02:29:01 PM »
Here is an article about Annika that appeared in Links magazine a while back...

http://www.linksmagazine.com/best_of_golf/personalities/annika_sorenstam_women_golf_course_designers.aspx

Fee at that time was only $500,000.   If she devotes as much TIME and energy into design as she did with golf then she should do fine.

« Last Edit: July 14, 2008, 03:49:37 PM by Craig Edgmand »

Lester George

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Re: Annika Sorenstam design?
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2008, 02:34:02 PM »
David,

Sounds like you need to give her a call.  No one could do it better for her.

Lester

Brad Klein

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Re: Annika Sorenstam design?
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2008, 03:01:15 PM »
Energy? I would have thought the analogy is time: spending the same years studying soils, drainage, site selection, routing plans and drawing -- akin to learning swing technique, physical conditioning, and those countless hours practising.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2008, 08:58:15 PM by Brad Klein »

Lester George

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Re: Annika Sorenstam design?
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2008, 03:07:24 PM »
Brad,

don't you agree that anyone can do it.  All it takes is a good publicist and copying what you have seen others do.  I could name fifty "marquee" names who think that's all it is. 

I see...therfore, I can...

Lester

Mike Vegis @ Kiawah

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Re: Annika Sorenstam design?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2008, 03:48:10 PM »
She's coming to the Charleston area soon to redesign Patriot's Point (just across the bridge from downtown Charleston in Mt. Pleasant near the aircraft carrier, "Yorktown," for the Ginn Corporation...  Go to http://www.patriotspointlinks.com/index.asp

David Druzisky

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Re: Annika Sorenstam design?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2008, 04:04:01 PM »
That makes 2 projects with Ginn.  But still, who is her talent.

Brad Klein

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Re: Annika Sorenstam design?
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2008, 06:50:30 PM »
Lester, all it really takes to be an architect these days is to find someone dumb enough to hire you (generic "you," or me or her).

Lester George

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Re: Annika Sorenstam design?
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2008, 06:58:22 PM »
Ginn better resolve some of its financial responsibilities and lawsuits before they take on any more.

Brad,

Whats the difference between now and 1920.  Even then people were trading on other than deliverable skill.  Like I said..... 

Lester

Jeff_Mingay

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Re: Annika Sorenstam design?
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2008, 07:48:06 PM »
Tom McBroom is signed up to collaborate with Annika on a new course to be built in British Columbia. I can't recall the location though.
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Brad Klein

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Re: Annika Sorenstam design?
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2008, 09:00:13 PM »
Lester, most sites were simpler then, and the costs of failure were nowhere as evident then at opening or a year or two afterwards, so they could get away with stuff or just learn on the fly.

By the end of WWI, the neophtes had been selected out and the ones who were left -- Ross, Mackenzie, Thompson, et all -- proved themselves pretty talented. But if you read through Bob Labbance's book on Vardon's 1900 tour you get a pretty good sense of the disastrous state of those earliest U.S. designs, anyway. Trial and error.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2008, 09:02:34 PM by Brad Klein »

Jim Johnson

Re: Annika Sorenstam design?
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2008, 09:40:05 PM »
Tom McBroom is signed up to collaborate with Annika on a new course to be built in British Columbia. I can't recall the location though.

Rossland, southern interior of B.C.
http://www.golfcourserealty.com/features/annika-sorenstam-west-kootenays-canada-golf-course-design-6070.htm

David Druzisky

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Re: Annika Sorenstam design?
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2008, 10:46:24 PM »
The Rossland project is the one I saw her name associated with.  Red Mountain ski resort.  The article was about all the resistance they had from the local community about the course from an environmental perspective.  McBroom was not mentioned but she was.  Sounds like he is going to have to do a lot of the "roll up your selves to help get it done" work.  You know, the stuff that qualifies him as an actual golf course architect.

DbD

David Druzisky

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Re: Annika Sorenstam design?
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2008, 01:28:28 PM »
The Vancouver newspaper has an article stating the project in Rossland was just shelved last night.

Buck Wolter

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Re: Annika Sorenstam design?
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2008, 01:51:15 PM »
You guys really think she's doing this by trial and error? Seems like there have been a few good collaborations between players and architects and I would think in today's economy an Architect could do a whole lot worse than tie up with Annika to get them the Global clout to go after projects in China, Vietnam, Thailand, Eastern Europe, etc.  Annika's game is more relevant to an average golfer than Tiger's or most PGA pro's plus she's retiring from play which means she may actually spend time on a project.
Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience -- CS Lewis

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