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Bill Brightly

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Re: Flag colors to indicate hole position - my letter to a member
« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2008, 09:27:01 PM »
My club uses a second, small triangluar "flag" that slides up and down the flag stick. High means back pin, low means front. This allows the guy cutting the hole to adjust the liitle flag precisely based on each new hole location. It is even more accurate than red, white and blue. And all our large flags can be the same color. Seems to be an inexpesive way to give the info members want. The negative is we lose the "clean" look of the flagstick.

Bradley Anderson

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Re: Flag colors to indicate hole position - my letter to a member
« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2008, 10:35:39 PM »
Dan,

Two comments:

I agree with much of what you have stated, but you need to state it with better economy of words. Sound logic and friendly persuasion generally make the point in three sentences or less.

What I personally like about colored flags is they are much easier to manage from a maintenance standpoint, compared to pin placement balls, flags on the stick, or pin pacement sheets. And the guy who changes cups only has to bring one flag with him from hole to hole. In fact, if he grabs the flag off the eighteenth hole and brings it with him to the first hole, the color that he took from 18 will tell him where to put the hole on the first hole. Then the first hole flag is carried to the second hole, guiding him in where to put that hole, and so on. So from a simple maintenance standpoint, colored flags are actually helpful in keeping hole rotations in order.

The guy who taught me how to change cups was an old Mexican gentleman, who had his own acronyms for keeping track of front-middle-back, middle-back-front, and back-front-middle rottations. The system he taught me was FAT-MR-BROWN, MY-BROTHER-FERNANDO, and (my favorite) BIG-FAT-MOMMA.



Wayne_Freedman

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Re: Flag colors to indicate hole position - my letter to a member New
« Reply #52 on: June 07, 2008, 07:02:15 PM »
MORONS?

 
 

All of you MORONS arguing for colored flags have no concept of the difficult position it puts the superintendent in should, god forbid, one of his staff mis-locate one of the color coded flags.

Golfers/members complain bitterly when an indicator is incorrect.

In addition, it may have rained during the night, making the intended location undesirable, which can result in an erroneous coding.

Lastly, for decades it was traditional to have the club's flags logoed and distinctive.  Hokying it up with color codings erodes the tradition.

Many clubs had/have one color flag for the front nine and another color for the back nine.

If you want to color code hole location, do it with the top of the 150 marker or a marker on the tee.

Leave the flags alone.

Doug Siebert,

How does a caddy, going on his first loop of the day, have any idea of where the holes are located ?

What's comical about this issue is that the one's clamoring for more information have usually been playing the golf course for 20+ years.

I always get a kick out of listening to a long time member ask the caddy, who's been at the club for all of one week, how the green breaks.

Golfers have become lazy and want the information spoon fed to them, when it's usually available to the observant player.

Stop whinning and play away.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2008, 09:21:25 PM by Wayne_Freedman »

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