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Dean Paolucci

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GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« on: June 05, 2008, 08:57:37 AM »
107th NJSGA Amateur Championship

http://www.njsga.org/tpp/Stroke.html

Go Get'Em Jamie!
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."  --  Mark Twain

TEPaul

Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2008, 09:15:45 AM »
That leaderboard looks like the Tour de France with Lance Armstrong out in front by a mile and an entire team (Tavistock) chasing him.

Jamie, you can do this---all you need to do is shoot a neat little 65, and as far as Blumfeld's last round here's all you need to do-----eg put my magic hex on Blumenfeld. At some point in the final round put your right leg in the air behind you and your right arm behind you and all simultaneously flutter your index and second finger for about five seconds and he will fold at some point in the final round! I'm doing it for you right now over here in Newtown Square, Pa, but I think I'm a bit too far away for it to have maximum effect.

What's the story on that golf course? How hard is that thing set up? My God those are high scores.

If you need any more motivation from me, how about this----if you win that tournament today you can get your name on the trophy with the great Max Behr and that might even provide you with the gift to see the Promised Land of golf course architecture and to write about it as well as he did!!!    :P
« Last Edit: June 05, 2008, 09:21:31 AM by TEPaul »

John Kavanaugh

Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2008, 10:17:43 AM »
Those scores are a perfect example of why not to roll back equipment.

Brent Hutto

Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2008, 12:52:23 PM »
Sure, John. But if the PGA Tour played there they would just overpower the course. Better to have real golfers shooting 90 than run the risk of a remorseless Tour machine shooting 62.

Mike_Cirba

Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2008, 01:42:23 PM »
Little Mill is NOT an easy golf course by any stretch, and was designed by Garrett Renn, who coincidentally was the Superintendent at Cobb's Creek when the course was re-routed in 1952.   

Renn designed a number of local courses during the 50s and 60s and did a complete restoration of Stiles/Van Kleek's Brigantine CC in NJ before his untimely death in a auto accident in 1966.

Go Jamie!!  ;D

Patrick_Mucci

Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2008, 02:29:19 PM »

Those scores are a perfect example of why not to roll back equipment.

In order to make that statement you must be very familiar with the golf course being played, the condition of the golf course and the composition of the field ?

What can you tell us about the above three items ?

Rich Goodale

Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2008, 02:38:20 PM »
Pat

I fully agree with John and will answer all of your questions for him, just to get your dander up.  To make you even more apoplectic, I've never played the course, know nothing about the conditions on the, and only know of one of the players (Jamie) and then only by reputation.  QED.

Rich

Jason Topp

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Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2008, 03:06:01 PM »
This course must be brutal.  The third round leader is even double bogey through 5 holes in the final round.

Phil Benedict

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Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2008, 03:18:00 PM »
The tournament set up for courses has changed to offset the impact of technology.  PGA Tour and US Open scoring isn't particularly low either (measured against 20-years ago), but the courses are harder. 

Rich Goodale

Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2008, 03:45:06 PM »
That leaderboard looks like the Tour de France with Lance Armstrong out in front by a mile and an entire team (Tavistock) chasing him.

Jamie, you can do this---all you need to do is shoot a neat little 65, and as far as Blumfeld's last round here's all you need to do-----eg put my magic hex on Blumenfeld. At some point in the final round put your right leg in the air behind you and your right arm behind you and all simultaneously flutter your index and second finger for about five seconds and he will fold at some point in the final round! I'm doing it for you right now over here in Newtown Square, Pa, but I think I'm a bit too far away for it to have maximum effect.

What's the story on that golf course? How hard is that thing set up? My God those are high scores.

If you need any more motivation from me, how about this----if you win that tournament today you can get your name on the trophy with the great Max Behr and that might even provide you with the gift to see the Promised Land of golf course architecture and to write about it as well as he did!!!    :P

Tom

You are a very scary man......

I'm not sure if Jamie twiddled his finger or whatever, but Mr. Blumenfield made the turn today in 49!  +14! :o


Ricardo the Humble

Patrick_Mucci

Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2008, 03:50:36 PM »


To the REAL Rich Goodale:

Rich,

Some derranged person has hacked into your computer and is posting on GCA.com under your name.

If you'll read the quote below you'll see what I mean.

While agreeing with JakaB can get you institutionalized, you're not fast tracked into HappyDale Farms until you begin agreeing with TEPaul.


Pat

I fully agree with John and will answer all of your questions for him, just to get your dander up.  To make you even more apoplectic, I've never played the course, know nothing about the conditions on the, and only know of one of the players (Jamie) and then only by reputation.  QED.


John_Conley

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Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2008, 03:54:43 PM »
The tournament set up for courses has changed to offset the impact of technology.  PGA Tour and US Open scoring isn't particularly low either (measured against 20-years ago), but the courses are harder. 

Thanks Phil, great point.  For all the talk about equipment, a brutal setup makes par a great score for pros and a tough one is enough to suffice for ams.  Local players are usually good enough to 'go low' when courses are prepared for daily play.

Patrick_Mucci

Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2008, 04:03:16 PM »
To the REAL Rich Goodale,

Jay Blumenfeld is a terrific golfer.

I suspect he's had a round where things started off poorly and got worse.

That happens to all of us.

It's just unfortunate that it happened to Jay during the final round of a tournament.

Noone likes to see a fellow golfer score poorly.
If we lose, we'd like to lose because the other fellows played better, not because we played worse.

And as we all know, when the wheels come off during a round, it's awfully hard to regain our swings, especially during competitions.

JohnV

Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2008, 04:07:13 PM »
You're right Patrick.  He started with a triple and a double and then made quad on 5.

Brad Swanson

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Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2008, 04:14:10 PM »
I hope Jamie can give us a recap as to what made the scores so relatively high. 

A.  The course
B.  The set-up
C.  The weather
D.  All of the above

Cheers,
Brad

Tom Huckaby

Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2008, 04:16:57 PM »
Brad - me too.  My guess is set-up, specifically brutal pin positions.  I really think that's the only thing that will make great players like this score so poorly.  And I don't mean the former leader's 49 - something else is up there - but more the overall very high scores for everyone.

I've always said let me set the pins and I can guarantee over par scores at Pasatiempo... John V. knows what I mean.  My guess is someone took this to heart at this event.

TH

Phil Benedict

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Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2008, 05:11:01 PM »
Stroke play is brutal, ain't it? 

I wonder if lost balls factored into the numbers Jay Blumenfeld posted - balls that would have been found if there was a decent gallery.  Just speculating.

TEPaul

Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2008, 05:24:33 PM »
"Tom
You are a very scary man......
I'm not sure if Jamie twiddled his finger or whatever, but Mr. Blumenfield made the turn today in 49!  +14!"


Richard:

I appreciate you telling me that. Jeeesus, he turned in 49!?!?

That is scary. Since I figured Jamie Slonis may not have seen my post and may not have known to put this hex move on Blumenfield, I just did it myself from over here at my office on the farm. Since I've never tried to put my hex move on anybody when I'm not actually on the course with them I figured from about fifty miles from Little Mill it might not have much effect on Blumenfield so I turned the rheostat up to about 83% when I gave him the hex move. I had no idea it could have that kind of effect from 50 miles away at 83% power. I'm glad I didn't turn the hex move rheostat up to 100% or I might have killed the poor guy.


Patrick_Mucci

Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2008, 05:32:42 PM »
Tom Huckaby,

Forget course set up.

Anyone who's played a course in NJ this spring knows the rough is difficult.

Then, when it rains for a day or two, the wet rough gets brutal.

Mike Nuzzo

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Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2008, 05:33:04 PM »
I'd like to hear about Little Mills' home field advantages.
Very good playing Jamie.
Cheers
Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

George Pazin

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Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2008, 06:43:25 PM »
Seeing what happened to Mr. Blumenfield makes me all that much more convinced that there is no way Romo breaks 86....

 :)

Nice playing, Jamie.

I hope we see some good results from all the GCAers this summer.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

Tom Huckaby

Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2008, 06:45:57 PM »
Tom Huckaby,

Forget course set up.

Anyone who's played a course in NJ this spring knows the rough is difficult.

Then, when it rains for a day or two, the wet rough gets brutal.

Gotcha. So get in the rough and it can take several hacks to get out?

Seeing what happened to Blumenfeld, well... I just assume great players like that would eventually hit a fairway.

And George, we shall see about Romo.  I still like the under on 86.  The day is approaching....

TH

Steve Kline

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Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2008, 09:44:05 PM »
Well done Jamie. You can never be too displeased with a top 10 in the state amateur.

PThomas

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Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2008, 09:50:12 PM »
good job Jamie!
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

TEPaul

Re: GCA's JSonis Tied for 2nd Entering Final Round
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2008, 10:50:27 PM »
Good tournament Jamie.

Congratulations TomG!!

Jamie, I figured one of you Tavistock guys right behind Blumenfield might pull it off. I remember playing with Tom Gramigna in something like a Mason Dixon Match that seems like eons ago. How old is he these days?

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