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Scott Macpherson

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New designs in homage to old architects
« on: May 15, 2008, 09:12:32 AM »
Tom Doak is designing a course at Bandon Dunes in the style of CB Macdonald. TD obviously respects CBM's work and design philosophy's.

Are there many courses around the world that have been designed specifically in homage to an old architect? If so where, and what's the name of the course, and who is the course been design in honour of? Does it incorporate specific features that architect was renown for?

Have any courses been design in honour of Harry Colt?


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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: New designs in homage to old architects
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2008, 09:18:39 AM »
The Architects Club in New Jersey is a collection of holes designed in the style of noted architects. Stephen Kay and Ron Whitten of GD did the work:

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Jimmy Muratt

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Re: New designs in homage to old architects
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2008, 09:53:28 AM »
Black Creek in Tennessee was designed by Brian Silva in the style of Seth Raynor and features many of the Raynor/Macdonald template holes. 

Matt Varney

Re: New designs in homage to old architects
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2008, 10:01:46 AM »
Black Creek is a really nice course design by Brian Silva if your a Raynor / Macdonald fan.

It is private but, if you are a member of another club that values great design you can play.

herrstein

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Re: New designs in homage to old architects
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2008, 08:09:11 PM »
As far as I know, Black Creek was the first course "designed in homage to old architects"... the idea was "to present to modern players the same strategic options and problems that Raynor/Macdonald courses presented to players in the Golden Age."
The only departures from this philosophy in my mind are:
The Biarritz hole is not actually a driver to the back. It should be about 300 to the center of the back section to approximate the actual shot that confronted scratch players in 1925. You can imagine the howling if we built something like that... although I wish we had. We get plenty of howling about it as it is. No one understands the Biarritz green except this particular (GCA) community of nuts.
We built 2 Redans, one a reverse. That hole, number 7, is perfect in my mind in adhering to the idea. The 11th, however, is too short- and maybe too downhill. Maybe it could have been an Eden- we don't have one- another departure. I like the 11th fine, though- it's just not a strict adherence to the idea. We have added a tee to increase the length, and I think it's better now- the angle also changed a little.
I believe Brian Silva was so captivated by the idea and the freedom to execute and the comraderie of the group that bought into the premise, that this course is among his best, if not his best.
Mike Keiser came to play the course with me and he loved it... this was before Coore and Crenshaw were selected for Bandon's third course. I don't know if he was inspired to pursue the Old Macdonald idea by Black Creek, but it couldn't have hurt.

Jeff_Mingay

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Re: New designs in homage to old architects
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2008, 08:21:04 PM »
Interesting it seems a majority of "homage" courses are tributes to Macdonald/Raynor: Black Creek; Old Macdonald; and, George Bahto -- who's also involved at Old Macdonald -- did one in New York. I can't recall its name?
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Garland Bayley

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Re: New designs in homage to old architects
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2008, 08:39:54 PM »
Interesting it seems a majority of "homage" courses are tributes to Macdonald/Raynor: Black Creek; Old Macdonald; and, George Bahto -- who's also involved at Old Macdonald -- did one in New York. I can't recall its name?

Is that the one that was MacDonald, then Tillinghast did some and George turned it all back into MacDonald style? Sleepy Hollow, something like that.
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Dan Moore

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Re: New designs in homage to old architects
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2008, 09:49:48 PM »
Someone should get the aerial and plans to Langford Moreau's Acacia and redo it on a good piece of property.  Its now nle and looks great on paper. 
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Bill_McBride

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Re: New designs in homage to old architects
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2008, 01:26:14 PM »
There are rumored plans to build a course somewhere in the US based on plans prepared by Dr MacKenzie for a course in Argentina that was never built.  The design floated around here on GCA.com I think, plus an article in one of the golf magazines.

Scott Macpherson

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Re: New designs in homage to old architects
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2008, 11:43:56 AM »
yeah, the article was in Travel & Leisure Golf Magazine, late last year I think.

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